Crossposted from The Stars Hollow Gazette

Should The Times Be a Truth Vigilante?

By ARTHUR S. BRISBANE, The New York Times

January 12, 2012, 10:29 am

I’m looking for reader input on whether and when New York Times news reporters should challenge “facts” that are asserted by newsmakers they write about.

This message was typical of mail from some readers who, fed up with the distortions and evasions that are common in public life, look to The Times to set the record straight. They worry less about reporters imposing their judgment on what is false and what is true.

Is that the prevailing view? And if so, how can The Times do this in a way that is objective and fair? Is it possible to be objective and fair when the reporter is choosing to correct one fact over another? Are there other problems that The Times would face that I haven’t mentioned here?


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  1. ek hornbeck
  2. Compound F

    I’d bet money that Greenwald by his lonesome induced that piece of soul-searching.

    I haven’t physically touched the NYT in about 12 years, but before that I used to buy it daily at newsstand prices.  Even Sundays.  At some point, I managed to refuse to be their crap-headed revenue stream.

  3. Lasthorseman

    “We are grateful to the lamestream propaganda outlets for their participation in our social engineering agendas”.

    Yeah, so I paraphrased a little bit.


  4. RUKind

    We’re in an election cycle with Romney and Gingrich in high profile. In roder to point out facts, a reporter would have to resort to historic positions and quotes of at least two people who come down on three sides of a two sided issue. How do you inject facts into a cohesive, easily digestible number of column inches.

    Then there’s the problem of repeated lies so you’d have the same boiler-plate truth for each repeat lie. I don’t think it would work.

    Americans lie in their lives (see income tax deductions for charity) and they expect lies and exaggerations from their politicians. The problem is with Mittens and Newt the situation is getting absurd. Then again, this is primary season and not the general so more is apt to slide.

    I expect the truth to start getting hammered out in the general. At that point it would be incumbent upon the reporters to report lies as such. Until then, it’s laissez-faire BS all the way.


  5. Lasthorseman

    a la Prof Panarin and or for the more advanced amongst my circle Dmitry Orlov.. That Potemkin village of destructive capitalism.  Oh, but you thought the “red” Chinese in their western world financed industrial gold rush actually had an EPA?  AN AFLCIO?  Workers right to know laws?  Lunch Breaks?  40 hour work weeks?

    Ah but back to the lameosity of lamestream Mittens and the Eye of Newt, both being establishment globalist assholes scheduled to occupy the Overton window of backlash against the Kenyan Hopey Changey Peace Prize tazer me bro and Gitmo for Grandma NDAA signatory.

    These motherfuckers operate in 169 fucking countries and as such command and control cultures, people’s and their governments along with the adjusted cultural data and results which go along with it.  They are well above their owned puppets be it Newt, Romney or the two commercial propaganda media entities which command the rejection of Ron Paul, Zionist references omitted for PC reasons.

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