Gun Control and the Hypocrisy of the War on (some) Terror

(10 am. – promoted by ek hornbeck)

  What nation can intentionally target children for death and still expect the world to love us? Didn’t we used to denounce the Soviet Union for this stuff?

“In addition to looking for military-age males, it’s looking for children with potential hostile intent.”

 – Lt Col Marion Carrington, Marine Corp Times

 It sort of puts those school shooting deaths in perspective, doesn’t it? Our lack of respect for the lives of children overseas will eventually come home.

   Lost in the debate about gun control in America is the fact that we are by far the largest gun trafficker in the world.

 the US actually tripled its arms sales last year, hitting a record high, and cornering almost 78 per cent of the global arms trade.

We have a near monopoly in the world’s arms trade. By definition that makes us the greatest threat to world stability and peace.

  It also exposes any effort at domestic gun control as total hypocrisy.

Back to the Global War

 Pop-quiz time: In which nation did 200 Marines begin armed operations last September?

a) Afghanistan

b) Pakistan

c) Iran

d) Somalia

e) Yemen

f) Central Africa

g) The Philippines

h) Guatemala

 If you guessed any of these, you were pretty close to being right.

After all, we have an ongoing war in Afghanistan that will not end after we’ve supposedly “withdrawn” in two years.

  There’s been armed border crossing by U.S. Special Forces in Pakistan.

  Special Forces operate on the Iran border.

  We bomb Somalia on a regular basis, and the CIA operates there.

  Special Forces operate on the ground in Yemen.

  100 Green Berets were sent to Central Africa this past summer to work against a rebel army.

  Special Forces have been operating in
the Philippines against rebels for some time now.

  The correct answer is “h”, where Marines will be working against drug traffickers.

 Currently, U.S. Special Forces are operating in 120 nations.

  Just a few decades ago the idea of American troops being deployed in almost every nation on Earth would have freaked a few people out. Now it is simply business as usual.

 U.S. Army teams will be deploying to as many as 35 African countries early next year for training programs and other operations as part of an increased Pentagon role in Africa. The move would see small teams of U.S. troops dispatched to countries with groups allegedly linked to al-Qaeda, such as Libya, Sudan, Algeria and Niger. The teams are from a U.S. brigade that has the capability to use drones for military operations in Africa if granted permission. The deployment could also potentially lay the groundwork for future U.S. military intervention in Africa.

 Most of these nations have no al-Qaida presence.

  What happened to President George Washington’s warning about foreign entanglements?

  Some say that our real reason for extending our military presence in Africa to combat China’s recent rising prominence in Africa.

  I don’t know if that it true, but it certainly wouldn’t be the first time our military has been used for reasons other than national security.

after nearly nine years of war and occupation, US troops finally left Iraq. In their place, Big Oil is now present in force…

   to protect the oil giants from dissent and protest, trade union offices have been raided, computers seized and equipment smashed, leaders arrested and prosecuted.

You missed the punchline

 The War on (some) Terror has always been a bad joke.

Let’s start with some basic facts:

   If we were serious about destroying al-Qaida, we would go after them where they are, right? Well, the largest known number of al-Qaida agents in the world are in Iraq. You know, the country we just pulled out of.

  There are over 1,000 agents in Iraq presently. Recall that the number of al-Qaeda agents in Iraq could be counted on one hand before we invaded.

 Our terrorism policy could be better summerized as “Good Terrrorists versus Bad Terrorists”. Good Terrorists are in conflict with common enemies.

 Conservatives have long supported terrorist groups that operate against iran.

  Plus, we tend to overlook terrorist connections against common enemies in Libya and Syria.

  However, all that pales in comparison to the fact that the United States has allowed terrorists to operate from American soil for over 50 years (see Luis Posada Carriles and Orlando Bosch as prime examples).


American Imperialism and Backlash

  By now many of you have probably heard of the Korean rapper, Psy. His song “Gangam Style” is the most watched video in YouTube history.

  What many of you probably don’t know is that he performed a song in 2004 called “Hey American”. The lyrics go like this:

   “Kill those f—ing Yankees who have been torturing Iraqi captives

     Kill those f—ing Yankees who ordered them to torture

    Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers

    Kill them all slowly and painfully”

 South Korea is not a place you normally think of for being anti-American, but it is hardly alone. America is currently more unpopular in the middle east than during the darkest days of the George W. Bush administration.


 Why are we so hated? Is it because of our freedom?

Obviously not. Half of all the refugees in the world are fleeing Americas wars. And that doesn’t even count the policies of American clients, such as Israel’s Palestinian problem.

 What this appears to represent is a type of brazen ignorance and egotism which has come to represent mainstream government policy; the type of myopia under which a country can launch a full-scale war, invasion and occupation of another sovereign nation under entirely false pretences, kill hundreds of thousands in the process and create millions of refugees and still at the end sincerely ask the question “Why they do hate us?”.

The Cost of Empire

 It’s a statement to the power of the military-industrial complex that Social Security and Medicare are on the table for being cut, but cutting back on a worldwide military empire is spoken only in whispers.

military spending

  We have over 1,000 overseas military bases, plus another 4,000 here at home. How much does all this “forward presence” cost us?

 Forced by Congress to account for its spending overseas, the Pentagon has put that figure at $22.1bn a year. It turns out that even a conservative estimate of the true costs of garrisoning the globe comes to an annual total of about $170bn. In fact, it may be considerably higher. Since the onset of “the Global War on Terror” in 2001, the total cost for our garrisoning policies, for our presence abroad, has probably reached $1.8 trillion to $2.1 trillion.

 Why the huge difference in numbers? Well, for starters Defense Department numbers simply can’t be trusted.

  (The Department of Defence remains the only federal agency unable to pass a financial audit.)

  Although the Overseas Cost Summary initially might seem quite thorough, you’ll soon notice that countries well known to host US bases have gone missing-in-action. In fact, at least 18 countries and foreign territories on the Pentagon’s own list of overseas bases go unnamed.

 Nearly all this military spending overseas does nothing to help the domestic economy.

  In fact, even if it wasn’t being spent overseas, military spending is probably the worst type of government spending when it comes to fiscal stimulus.

  Military spending creates fewer jobs per million dollars expended than the same million invested in education, health care, or energy efficiency – barely half as many as investing in schools. Even worse, while military spending clearly provides direct benefits to the Lockheed Martins and KBRs of the military-industrial complex, these investments don’t, as economist James Heintz says, boost the “long-run productivity of the rest of the private sector” the way infrastructure investments do.

To adapt a famous line from President Dwight Eisenhower: every base that is built signifies in the final sense a theft.



 So why do we keep mortgaging our future for a navy that hasn’t served a real military purpose since WWII? Why do we keep mortgaging our future on missle defense systems eventhough the Cold War is over? Why are we spending insane amounts of money on bombers designed to penetrate Soviet air space when the Soviet Union no longer exists? The answer is as obvious as the current owners of all those Iraqi oil wells.

 We thus arrive at a universal, praxeological truth about war. War is the outcome of class conflict inherent in the political relationship – the relationship between ruler and ruled, parasite and producer, tax-consumer and taxpayer. The parasitic class makes war with purpose and deliberation in order to conceal and ratchet up their exploitation of the much larger productive class.

Thus, a permanent state of war or preparedness for war is optimal from the point of view of the ruling elite, especially one that controls a large and powerful state.

 It seems rediculous to me the subjects of gun control, freedom and protecting our children are even being debated, while we stretch our military empire over the world, flood the world in guns, and intentionally target children for death.

  We talk about security, while still supporting terrorists. We talk about fiscal responsibility, while mortgaging the future of our children to spend on useless wars that cause the rest of the world to hate us.

 Our foreign policy is so far outside of sanity and morality one has to wonder what future generations will think about us? Will they be able to forgive us?


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  1. Lasthorseman

    The pentacon wants to expand operations into Africa under the excuse of Al-CIA-duh and the war of error but is really interested in China’s interest in Africa for it’s plentiful resources such are oil,metals, ag potential, uranium etc.

    It struck me as kind of retarded in my book as we in the United States don’t make anything anymore so we need Africa’s natural resources why?  No, really we make what.  Bombs?  Drones with bombs, crappy Satanically oriented financial instruments, airport scanners, secret space surveillance cameras.

    A former Army guy, wounded in Iraq wonders about how government confiscated guns magically appeared in Iraq.  He also wondered why he could not bring home a gun he liked but the guy from “intel” could.  True story I should not have said.

  2. banger

    Every time I think of this it makes me almost want to cry. These dollars spent on weapons here or elsewhere means suffering, fear and terror for millions. And this is who we are.

    What you miss in your analysis is the fact that the American people have more confidence in the military than any other American institution–75% of Americans have either a “great deal” or “quite a lot” of confidence in the military. The next highest is small business at 63%—of course Congress has the lowest rating of 13% despite the fact it is the only institution that actually most fully represents the American people at least theoretically.

    This fascination with the military and with the use of violence is very useful to the global empire run for and by the global (not necessarily American) elite. This is something we will have to live with and, even if there are increasing numbers of people who don’t see violence as the optimal solution to all problems it will take a long time to get it out of our system.

    Again, as I often say, our problems are cultural more than political.  

  3. tahoebasha3

    this diary, which culminates so much of what has gone on, but the realities of it all . . . . a large undertaking, so kudos!

    I agree with you on so many levels, I hardly know exactly where to begin.

    So, I think commenting on the “endless wars” will be first.  You know the old saying:  If you tell a lie long enough, you and everyone will wound up believing it.  There is no “war on terror” and there never was.  Largely, all that has happened was calculated in a “blueprint” layed out in a document:  “Rebuilding America’s Defenses:Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century — A Report of the Project for the New American Century — September 2000” PNAC.  A cursory read of the document foretells all of what has happened.  Wall Street, of course, was in accord!

    Our tentacles constantly reach out:  UNAC STATEMENT ON THE RAPIDLY INCREASING U.S. MILITARY INTERVENTION IN AFRICA  By davidswanson – Posted on 13 January 2013

    Yes, we’re in Africa, and have been for some time now, but as you will note, our largesse of efforts are concentrated now, in Mali.  I commented on the article here!

    It seems rediculous to me the subjects of gun control, freedom and protecting our children are even being debated, while we stretch our military empire over the world, flood the world in guns, and intentionally target children for death.

    We continue, by our actions, to represent a paradox in what we deem important in this world.  Children learn, largely, from example.  How can you explain to a child it’s O.K. to “drone” this child or that, but it’s not O.K. to kill a kid in school?  Well, you get the idea!  Children are impressionable …. very!  How can you expect them to separate out “right” from “wrong” in our current “history?”  But, it goes beyond that.  We are an “uncaring” society (banger, this refers to the me, me, me, I, I, I, narcissist society, as we have so discussed).  Largely, unless it’s catastrophe, people do not care to be involved [stemming from the I, I, I, mentality], as well as the paranoia that one might be sued by “one’s neighbor” sort of thing, such that there is much isolation between one human being and the next (so to speak).  This “isolation” (garnered from the sense that no ones give a GD about “anyone” kind-of-frame of thinking)  induced by “corporate type thinking and behavior,” etc. and other factors are what breeds the likes of these young people capable of such horrific crimes in our schools and elsewhere.  Yes, guns are the weapon used, but it is the mind that pulls the trigger — a, perhaps, young mind that WE have betrayed in some way, giving way to his private thoughts of isolationism and knowledge he is uncared about!  This is my hypothesis of what creates a “sick” society.  

  4. Lasthorseman

    for the Pentagon to secure Africa (and it’s natural resources) against China when “American” corporations have already sold their very souls to China.

    The global war of error is only the Russia replacement enemy of choice for “our” military-industrial complex.

    In the Dmitry Orlovian scheme of thought “we” as the greatest consumers offering diminsishing returns simply have to go, globalistically orientationwise.

  5. Lasthorseman

    but I was in former east germany in 93.  Yes “the wall” might have come down but in this relatively small geographic area the conflict of belief systems or rather that vast power of governments to indoctrinate their subjects…I watched real Soviet soldiers dust off their war memorial while in the company of a US soldier.  It was one of the defining moments of my life.  It is a part of why I happen to be so far outside of normal sheeple life to this very day.

  6. tahoebasha3

    in this world that we were not out seeking all the “natural resources” we could muster from this nation or that?  Even, for example, South Vietnam was rich in offshore oil — most probably, our reasons for staying and slaughtering humans for years on end, this, knowing the French Foreign Legions’ total lack of success to colonize the area, who were there for some 20 years, I believe it was . . . still, we could not learn, at the expense of over 50,000 of our soldiers and endless repercussions from those efforts, most importantly, children, who were considered neither feast nor fowl, and wound up in cages, literally, hoping to be adopted.  Always trying to feed “steak” to people who preferred “rice.”

  7. tahoebasha3

    long before your visit in 93, but it was when the “wall” was still up.  I visited the area considered East Berlin, and went to the Russian monument (the one I think you are speaking of), where a tree was planted for every dead Russian soldier.  The tomb there is a Russian soldier holding a child in his arm and inside the tomb were mosaics depicting the tyranny of it all.  At that time, East Berlin was still very much a disaster area — bombed out buildings, etc.  It hardly matters that it was a Russian memorial, though, it was, it was a poignant memorial of all “mankind.”

  8. tahoebasha3

    “And this is who we are.”  It is definitely who we are and have become.  The confidence of the American people in the military, etc. simply means that the MSM has done a damn good job of snowing MOST of the people.

  9. gjohnsit

    Americans think of themselves as good people (and to a large extent they are), and thus we are the good guys.

    The problem is that Americans don’t let facts get in the way of what they want to believe.

     The fact is that we are doing evil to much of the rest of the world.

    Simply by sending our troops everywhere, engaging in lots of wars, bombing lots of countries, and being by far the largest weapons supplier of the world, we are doing evil. There is no other way around it.

      But Americans don’t want to face those facts.

  10. banger

    because it makes them feel secure–I think that may be more on the mark than what I said. Since I don’t fear things outside myself very much fear doesn’t occur to me as a motivation for things like that. I mean–what are we afraid of?

    She forced me to watch Bowling for Columbine yesterday–I’ve seen his other films but have avoided that one for some reason. And what came out in that movie is that people in this country are afraid–because by the end of the film that’s the only logical explanation for our tendency towards gun violence—and why are we so scared? Some kind of collective unconscious guilt?

  11. polm

    for more than a half century.  The fact that people here in the United States as a whole glorify and have so much confidence in our military is one indication that the United States is well on its way to becoming a genuinely fascist state.  It’s sad bur true.

  12. tahoebasha3

    In the case of Americans “worshiping” the military . . . . I think that has been taught them for a long time now . . . . you know the rhetoric, “they’re over there fighting for our good” etc.  I think many don’t even think about the real reasons or are unconcerned about them — it’s just “they’re over there fighting for our good.”

    But, you’re also right about the cultural thing.  If you can’t trust yourself, then how can you trust others, kind of thing.  So, collectively, we are a country feeled with many who can’t trust themselves and, thus, have no trust in others. And, I suppose, there is where the subconscious guilt comes in!


  13. tahoebasha3

    We have gone about the world plundering this country and that, slaughtering and maiming their people, destroying their infrastructures, applying sanctions that caused them death, causing people to become displaced and it has become our modus operandi . . . endless warring and killing.  We literally destroyed Iraq, without going into details, which I’m sure you are aware of.  And, yes, weapons is our big business.  And, countries that we supposedly give aid to is another deception . . . the so-called comes in the way of a “credit” that can be used to purchase our weapons and for no other purpose.

    Americans simply don’t want to look at the facts period.  It’s easier to think “we’re there for the good of this country.”    

  14. banger

    The fact Americans don’t want to face facts.

    This is very, very, very serious and is where we need to focus. For exmaple, I’ve noticed on any number of practical and pragmatic solutions offered for almost every matter before the public and they are rarely considered and are, in fact, dismissed as irrelevant by the mainstream media without further comment.

    Just a note on the issue of “evil” the sad fact is that we need to define the term–it no longer has the meaning it once did.  

  15. tahoebasha3
  16. banger

    Also, we need to define “evil” again. I don’t think the word means the same thing to all of us or that it is even a valid concept. I believe it is a valid concept, btw.

  17. tahoebasha3

    is, thanks, gawd, a growing number of people WHO are beginning to look at the facts, which I should have stated above, but, mostly, it is the majority that do not want to look at the facts. Certainly, the MSM is the underlying subconscious “voice” promoting this kind of “let’s not look at the real issues, or what has caused them” kind of thing and they “gloss” over just about anything and everything and you, as you know, never even hear about so much of what goes on in the background.  For example, if it weren’t for Manning and, consequently, Wikileaks, would we ever have known about the incident in Iraq with the killing of citizens in cold blood? Just one thing, mind you!

    I don’t know, maybe, an analogy would be something like and as simple as:  “How are you today?”  “I’m fine, thank you.”  Of, on the inside, you might be friggin’ heart-broken.  Were you to say how you really felt, the recipient of such a response would probably freak out and start to walk the other way, saying:  “If there’s anything I can do for you, just let me know!!!!”

    And, I’m sure you’ve had the experience(s) of trying to explain the truth about some of the things that are actually going on in this country and someone will look at you as though you’re nuts, and tell you:  “How can you possibly say that, what do you know?”  Or, “you’re reading way too much into that!”  Well, you know, Responses of dismissal! (In some such events, I’ve even given the person an article to read, etc., but it doesn’t mean, even still, that that someone is convinced.)  

    Evil and a new meaning?  Well, I don’t think we need think of evil as some supernatural force, that’s for certain!

  18. tahoebasha3

    “No, we are a mixture.” ????  I’m not sure what you mean!

    I believe it is a valid concept, too, but minus the notion of a supernatural force.      

  19. banger

    When I talk about stuff to others I find they just shut down–nowadays nobody wants to talk about it–people are more resigned to things–Americans are beginning to master the French shoulder shrug.  

  20. banger

    AS for supernatural Evil–well, it depends on what you mean by that–but I believe that yes, there’s a spiritual realm and something very much like Evil has some purchase there (whatever that “there” is, I’m not sure).  

  21. tahoebasha3

    But here and there (far and few between), I have actually engaged some of those people in conversations to try and get them to wise up, to read, to turn off the TV, and give them some reliable sites to read, etc. But, admittedly, it’s rare!  And the “biggie” — if you try to discuss 911, people just think you’re a lunatic, mostly, and then they sprout some of their media-fed ignorance, “It was Saddam Hussein, who ordered the attack . . . . ”  Unbelievable stuff!  

  22. tahoebasha3

    For example, I’ve heard questions asked in the past:  “Can evil overcome good?” (I think we’re seeing it right now today, personally!)

    While there may be a chance that evil could become  somewhat spiritual in nature, it certainly doesn’t start off that way, I don’t think.  I think we have been seeing people of like mentalities joining in evil “adventures” (using religion as a pretext for their efforts, in some instances, or, perhaps, most), so that the actual evil-doing somehow becomes spiritualized . . . . if that makes any sense.  I’m reminded of how our young training military are being force-fed religion, as part of their training.  Is this to make them feel self-righteous about what they will do?  Doesn’t seem to be much different than training young jihadists that it will be “God’s will” that they blow themselves up!

    Or, assume that we look at evil from a different angle, where religion or talk of it is not involved, but there is a collective like mentality . . . . it may be possible that the mere involvement may become somewhat spiritual, in nature.

    When you think of Hitler, evil is the first word that comes to mind and he was able, through his “magnetism” to gather great groups of people into his mentality and dreams . . . . . . did it, at a point, become spiritual?  Possibly!

    Jesus, according to whatever we know about him, was a selfless man, given to pagan times, and sought to help and give guidance to the people.  He acquired a following, with the same sort of “magnetism,” as that of Hitler (for the sake of analogy).  But his efforts were for good, not evil, so far as we know.

    You have the KKK, who’ve been “in operation” for years and years and years — a cult. (Hitler could have been considered a cultist, as well.  Jesus, too, might have been considered as a cultist!)  The KKK have long believed in the supremacy of the “white man” from what I can garner and feel thoroughly justified in what I deem their “evil acts” which they have perpetrated on others for a long, long time now.

    And, we haven’t even mentioned individuals.  Aren’t there those individuals, who don’t necessarily kill other human beings, but enjoy inflicting pain upon them, whether it’s mental, physical or emotional?  Or, simply enjoy seeing pain they have caused another or others?  To me, such individuals are evil in their intent.  And we all face or have faced such individuals over time.  (These are the sorts of people, who may later become the dog fighters, the child molesters, the police, the politicians, anything that gives certain individuals a sense of power over another).

    How can you define evil as anything but evil, then?  

    In our present day and the conduct of the non-existent “wars on terra,” if I were to put a face on evil or give it a symbol, it would be that of a drone . . .. this is the personification of evil.  Imagine, an unmanned flying machine hovering above your heads, knowing you have come within the sight of the controller’s realm and, thus, targeted.  Can you target just one human being?  How so, no, that is an unbelievable scenario.  How could you escape, once in the view of the drone?  So, it means, that anyone within the view of the drone will be executed!

    And we want our children to believe that our actions are O.K.?, as they play video games that, primarily, do the same things as drones?

    This has been somewhat rambly and I apologize for that, but they are meritorious thoughts, I think!    

  23. banger

    It’s like trying to load an elephant on a canoe. People need bigger boats to deal with 9/11. Many people suspect the assassinations were fishy but 9/11 is too in-your-face. I’m working on building such a boat, if you want to know the truth. I’m trying to write it.

  24. banger

    But here is my definition: evil is that which radically separates us from others and from the natural world. The things that makes people afraid and causes them to shut down are evil. The good brings us together to relax in each other’s eyes because we’re both saying “yes.”

    You made me think about this:


  25. tahoebasha3

    I’m sure you’re familiar with the Architects and Engineers’ site Architects, et al.  These architects and engineers have been searching and presenting the realities of 9/11 over time now!  But I think you know this!

  26. tahoebasha3

    I listened to it — right on the mark!  

    Thanks for that!

    “The things that makes people afraid and causes them to shut down are evil.”  EXCELLENT!  

  27. banger

    But it’s really too much to think about for nearly all Americans and I find that very interesting. I remember thinking after 9/11 with the Chruch Lady’s famous quip: “isn’t that convenieeeent.”

  28. terryhallinan

    When, pray tell, did we ever go anywhere in this world that we were not out seeking all the “natural resources” we could muster from this nation or that?

    When we went to Somalia for one.

    Then there wars between the various charities aiming to keep kids mainly from starving and finally we screwed everything up hunting a warlord who was actually better educated than our Rhodes Scholar president.

    I take exception to the thought we went to Vietnam for oil.  We first supported the return of the French colonialists but somebody had to show Truman where Vietnam was on a map first.  Ho Chi Minh’s forces had been friendlies during WWII.  They became downright uncivil towards Americans when I was there. :-)

    Haven’t heard anything for a long time about the Special Forces sent to Africa to hunt down the Lord’s Resistance Army preying on Muslims mostly but, despite the obvious enticements, I kind of like the thought of wiping out that horrendous group of guerrillas.  I expect we will mess that up too.

    But just maybe we are in lots of places we shouldn’t oughta be.

    Possible we could agree on that? :-)

    Best,  Terry

  29. banger

    Though I don’t think American corporations have sold their souls to anyone–they have captured all the souls they need. The agreement is that the U.S. secures world resources for the rest of the world. The U.S. in turn is allowed dollar and military hegemony in exchange. Very simple, very neat, very stable and very rational.

    Of course this is never talked about by anyone.  

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