Bending to Paranoia and Fear

(4 pm. – promoted by ek hornbeck)

Cross posted from The Stars Hollow Gazette

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.

   Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

Ben would not be pleased with the government he helped create. Since before 9/11/2001, our rights had been slowly eroding, since then the notion of the rule of law and the Constitution seems quaint. “American’s don’t believe in shredding the Constitution to fight terror,” that was the headline of an article written by Greg Sargeant in the Washington Post‘s Plum Line. he points out a poll done by the Post that asked respondents:

Q: Which worries you more: that the government will not go far enough to investigate terrorism because of concerns about constitutional rights, or that it will go too far in compromising constitutional rights in order to investigate terrorism?

48% were more concerned the government would go too far; while 41% said it would not go far enough. While not a majority, it is still encouraging that there is a plurality that would like to see our Constitutional rights protected. Yet there are still those who would throw those rights away for false feeling of security. Fueled by the rhetoric of a terrorist in every Muslim community, some of our elected representatives and voices in the mainstream media have called for stripping the Constitutional rights of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, now charged with the bombings and deaths that resulted.

But the government and the media seem to be hung up on calling this incident, terrorism and labeling Tsarnaev a terrorist even before there was a motive or a connection to any terrorist organization. Writing at The Guardian, Glenn Greenwald wonders why Boston is ‘terrorism’ but not Aurora, Sandy Hook, Tucson and Columbine:

Over the last two years, the US has witnessed at least three other episodes of mass, indiscriminate violence that killed more people than the Boston bombings did: the Tucson shooting by Jared Loughner in which 19 people (including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords) were shot, six of whom died; the Aurora movie theater shooting by James Holmes in which 70 people were shot, 12 of whom died; and the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting by Adam Lanza in which 26 people (20 of whom were children) were shot and killed. The word “terrorism” was almost never used to describe that indiscriminate slaughter of innocent people, and none of the perpetrators of those attacks was charged with terrorism-related crimes. A decade earlier, two high school seniors in Colorado, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, used guns and bombs to murder 12 students and a teacher, and almost nobody called that “terrorism” either.

In the Boston case, however, exactly the opposite dynamic prevails. Particularly since the identity of the suspects was revealed, the word “terrorism” is being used by virtually everyone to describe what happened. After initially (and commendably) refraining from using the word, President Obama has since said that “we will investigate any associations that these terrorists may have had” and then said that “on Monday an act of terror wounded dozens and killed three people at the Boston Marathon”. But as (Ali) Abunimah notes, there is zero evidence that either of the two suspects had any connection to or involvement with any designated terrorist organization.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg added his opinion that in light of the Boston bombing, the Constitution needs to be “reinterpreted”:

“The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry,” Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. “But we live in a complex word where you’re going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change.” [..]

“Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms. New Yorkers probably know that as much if not more than anybody else after the terrible tragedy of 9/11,” he said.

“We have to understand that in the world going forward, we’re going to have more cameras and that kind of stuff. That’s good in some sense, but it’s different from what we are used to,” he said.

A noun, a verb and 9/11? Mr. Bloomberg wants us to fear those who would “take away our freedoms.” We should fear the Michael Bloombergs and Rudolph Guilianis of the world.

At a bedside hearing, Tsarnaev was advised of his rights and was appointed a lawyer. He freely answered questions in writing, denying that there was a connection with any terrorist organization and the idea was his brother’s. He also told the court that they were motivated by extremist Islamic beliefs. But does that justify calling this terrorist act and labeling the brothers terrorists? Even so, is there ever a justification for denying a person their Constitutional rights?

Glenn joined Amy Goodman on Monday’s Democracy Now to discuss the issues that surround this case.

Transcript can be read here.


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  1. TMC
  2. tahoebasha3

    having posted to your other diary, “A Message From A Bostonian,” but I posted there right along these lines, in essence.  

  3. tahoebasha3

    the friendly Bostonian Police looking for the “suspect.”

    “Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes”

    oh, and this ever so cool video:

    Systematic House to House Raids in Locked-Down Watertown, Massachusetts

    I think I remember seeing some very similar cinemagraphic images in black and white somewhere  . . .. . !

  4. banger

    As most people who know me know I believe in Deep Politics which to my mind are just politics as traditionally seen by the ancients who had no illusions and no ideological egg to fry. They just called it like it was. Essential to classical history are conspiracies and plots–governments, even when they are authoritarian, must keep public opinion behind them or they risk being stabbed in the back. There is no such thing as American Exceptionalism–this country and its leaders are as malevolent or benevolent as others in history–democracy does not by itself breed virtue.

    I’m not going to say that there is something fishy about Boston because I don’t know and I am not interested in pursuing that, but we do know that the brothers were under FBI surveillance and they were questioned more than once according to their families. Where these guys patsies like so many in the world of jihad? I have no reason to believe they were but it doesn’t matter. I assume the authorities are correct until it’s proven otherwise.

    But here’s the important part–we must assume that it is possible that governments will stage false-flag events which is precisely the reason we ought not over-react because if we do it gives the government incentive to create false-flag events in order to take dictatorial power. The authorities used the Cold War and deliberately exaggerated the Soviet threat in order to repress the left. They blacklisted the most creative people in Hollywood precisely because they were seen as a threat to give an alternate POV to government propaganda. Part of the severe reactions that occurred in the 60s came form young people who realized they had been systematically lied to about everything–thus the authorities learned, gradually, to be more subtle in their repression and open up the society to new points of view all the while continuing to regain a lock on political control which they did. The regime used much the same techniques the Chicoms used to keep power–give the people their material goods but keep a tight control on political power.

    Part of the reason that we have that 48% is the growth, particularly among young people on the right, of a deep suspicion that the government lies about everything–that we have to stay armed in order to keep them honest. This is a very important movement that gives us some breathing room. The current government is largely malicious and dangerous and does want to take power, not to “do good” but to enhance control of the corporate elites.

    At any time, without a deeply skeptical public, the ruling elite could stage a false-flag event and stampede the public into a totalitarian regime since the mainstream media has been prove, time after time, to just echo the ruling elite’s narrative with little interest in truth.  

  5. tahoebasha3

    I hope I’m not losing it altogether because of the “gout.”  

    But I think I just had an epiphany moment, but it just dawned on me.  

    Aren’t the prospects for possible war with Syria and Iran being “racheted” up?  

    So, then, wouldn’t we also need to rachet up the anti-Muslim sentiments?

  6. tahoebasha3

    I had been think to myself, I’ll bet they’ll try and find a way to ban backpacks, and what do you think?  They’re starting to think about it.

    Marathon deaths prompt review of security policy.

    By EDDIE PELLS | Associated Press – 1 hr 55 mins ago

    . . . . And, as a result of the two backpack-encased bombs that exploded near the finish line at the Boston Marathon, sports teams and leagues around the world are rethinking what kind of bags, satchels, purses and, yes, black nylon backpacks should be allowed inside stadiums and arenas.

    The packs will even be the focal point of a conference this summer of stadium-security personnel in Orlando .

    “After what happened … I wouldn’t be surprised if the number of people eliminating backpacks would increase,” said Lou Marciani, director of the National Center for Spectator Sports Safety and Security, founded in 2006 and based at the University of Southern Mississippi in Hattiesburg.

    Many, many people had backpacks at the Boston Marathon!  They are extremely useful, leave the hands free, etc.  But they’ll probably crack down on them for schools and everywhere!  Little by little, inch by inch . . . . . !  

  7. tahoebasha3

    The Meaning of the Boston Lockdown: A Resident’s Perspective

    Quicklink submitted by B. Ross Ashley    

    April 26, 2013

    By editor

    Scott Cooper is a long-time activist who lives in Newton, Massachusetts, a city that borders on Boston and through which the Boston Marathon runs. We asked him about the bombing at the Marathon and his reactions to the lockdown the Friday after as police sought the suspects.

    Q: What has been the reaction by the residents of Newton and Greater Boston to the lockdown?

    . . . . . In the aftermath, though, I’m hearing and reading about a lot of questioning about the scope of the lockdown. Initially, the euphemistically named “shelter-in-place” order was for Watertown and the abutting towns, including Waltham, Belmont, Cambridge, Newton, and the Allston-Brighton neighborhood of Boston. Later in the morning, it was extended to include the entire city of Boston. People wonder why neighborhoods of Boston such as Dorchester, far from Watertown, needed to be locked down. From a purely police tactical perspective, one can easily understand locking down, say, the part of Newton that abuts Watertown, but why my neighborhood?

    My own view is that the authorities saw an opportunity to take a step that would help normalize these kinds of police actions. It really was like martial law in some places. In the eerily quiet Back Bay section of Boston, where the bombing occurred, armored personnel vehicles roamed the streets. National Guard troops patrolled, in full fatigues and carrying automatic weapons. There were Blackhawk helicopters flying above. In the Watertown neighborhood, fully armed cops in battle fatigues conducted a house-to-house search in a 20-block area, without a single warrant allowing them into the homes. I can only imagine what would have happened had any homeowner asked to see a judge’s authorization for entry into her or his home.

    Throughout the metropolitan area, people remained inside, prisoners in their own homes, and followed the news. Here, we had the three cable news networks as well as five local stations covering this around the clock. There were rumors and suppositions and false reporting all day. The TV showed SWAT teams being dispatched suddenly from a command center set up in the parking lot of a Watertown mall, sent to this or that neighborhood where something suspicious was to be investigated. As the day wore on, we learned that the police were cordoning off Norfolk Street in Cambridge, where the alleged bombers lived, and were going to have a controlled detonation of what we were told might be bombs in a booby-trapped apartment, like the Aurora shooter had in his apartment. Everyone simply believed whatever the authorities told them.

    People are beginning to question the rationale for the lockdown, or at least the geographic expanse of the lockdown. This can be seen in the newspapers, particularly in Letters to the Editor(s). Parts of Somerville abut where the alleged bombers lived, but Somerville was not one of the city’s in the “shelter-in-place” zone. Where my son lives in Chelsea is closer to the Watertown neighborhood under siege than many parts of the city of Boston, but Chelsea wasn’t locked down. It only makes sense to me if you consider it as an “opportunity” for the authorities to see whether they could successfully pull off a state of siege in an American city. . . . . .

    Rob Kall, of Op-Ed, makes a few points here:

    Here are some of the questions they should be asking:

    What precedents will be set by locking down a whole metropolitan area of almost five million citizens?

    The only times such large scale lockdowns have occurred have been during major, mass riots. It is being argued that this metro-lockdown approach made it easier for the police to do their job. That is not an acceptable reason. This is a slippery slope.

    This time the lockdown was used to search for a fugitive bomber. Maybe the next time a lockdown will be used to search for a cop-killer on the run. And the next time it will be used to search for  thieves who stole $100 in art. Before we know it we could be seeing city-wide lockdowns for bank thefts or rapes– this is a slipper slope we need to discuss whether we should go down it. I say absolutely not. And anyway, the lockdown didn’t work. The fugitive was found after and BECAUSE the lockdown was lifted. . . . .  

  8. tahoebasha3

    but I’ve limited time to answer in the way I wish to, plus I suddenly got a major pain in my big toe (no joke).

    I will, at a point, respond to this e-mail of yours, though I was not necessarily thinking of going there.

  9. tahoebasha3

    As you know, there’s little said about the Texas killings, or other horrid incidents, but there is and has been non-stop media blasting about the Boston brothers, their mother, their father, their history, what they did, when, where, etc., and tracked by the FBI and even by the FBI.  Just think, if, hypothetically, they were innocent, they have been “lynched” by the media already, which is what lead me to the thought just above.

  10. tahoebasha3

    as much as I’ve been suspicious of, although it emanates from a Canadian source:

    Canada’s Complicity in the War on Terror

    Three days after Boston was locked down, invaded by a colossal police-military apparatus on a surreal “teenagehunt”, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police made a very timely announcement: they had foiled a terrorist plot targeting a Via Rail passenger train. Or so they say.

    In a very absurd press conference where three RCMP officers repeatedly answered questions with “we cannot comment as the investigation is ongoing”, the only information they seemed very eager to disclose was that the suspects “received guidance from Al-Qaeda in Iran”.

  11. tahoebasha3
  12. polm

    the city advised everybody to be cautious and to stay indoors on that Friday, anyhow.  Classes at the Tae Kwon Do school that I attend twice a week were cancelled that Friday night, as well.

  13. polm

    This may sound weird, but, as horrific as the attacks during the Boston Marathon were,  I can’t help wondering if the lockdown that several towns and cities here in the Boston area experienced that Friday following the marathon are just the beginning of a real upping of our government’s attacks on our Civil Liberties in the name of security.  I certainly hope not, but can’t help wondering.

    What’s even worse is that far too many average, ordinary, everyday people are either unaware of, or are willfully ignorant of the role that the US Government’s actions have played in situations like this, if one gets the drift.

  14. TMC

    in the future.  

  15. tahoebasha3

    I’ve been working on it and it just keeps getting longer and longer.  I may give up at a point and just send you plenty of reading material, but I’m trying to plow through it.  The whole thing is so convoluted, it’s surreal.  Even the MSM could not keep their stories straight from one MSM to the next.

  16. tahoebasha3

    to terryhallinan below!  I would add just this much to it (extracted from an e-mail I wrote a friend):

    Anyway, G., I’m including herein, a couple of links that I feel you should read.   You should, if you don’t already know, know that the FBI (and the CIA, in instances, can be included as well) has pulled off a number of “terrorists” events, at its behest.  And, usually, they pull them off at propitious moments when “hot” legislative issues are at hand.  Suddenly, you’re not hearing too much about the gun control issues, the fight back against threats to our Social Security, etc., the immigration issue, the CISPA issue, etc.  Nope, the focus has been successfully diverted.  This is NOT NEW!  It happened every whipstitch during Bush’s tenure, the minute the public was screaming for something, something happened to divert the focus.   But what you’ve really experienced is Martial Law in Boston.

    Anyway, the non-stop episode, as blitzed to us by the MEDIA, continues onward.  OMG, incredible tales . . .. . the media can’t even keep their stories straight.  “They used a stolen SUV. . . . ”   “They used a stolen Mercedes . . . .”   “They owned a Mercedes . . . ”  an array of an onslaught of inconsistencies and “NEW” revelations, in other words, to thoroughly feed the “official story” into the minds of zombied Americans, who are largely clueless.   Meantime, you had a dead brother, who, according to one report and video, was led out in the dark, naked and in custody (and the aunt has since sworn, “this is my blood, I know my blood” in identification of him in the video), only to have the story change and show him laying with, at least, pants and a jacket, on a sidewalk, lifeless, with countless Police and FBI with their guns pointed at him, as though this limp creature were about to stir.  Next, the news said that he had died because he got out of the car and had a shoot-out and that his brother had run over him driving backwards.  The hospital doctor said that he had injuries from head to toe, but the FBI had not permitted the doctor to say from what.   It’s now revealed that he suffered gun shots and blunt trauma wounds.    The younger brother, when found, was unarmed and is in critical condition with gun shots to his neck and elsewhere about his body and unable to speak.  Yet, they are questioning him in this condition and they say, he is writing responses.

    I think I will, when I can, somehow continue to try and put this episode into some kind of succinct manner for my sake, if nothing else.  If and when that should ever happen, I will share it with you!  :)

  17. tahoebasha3

    […] Again, they might be guilty. But as Glenn Greenwald notes:

    The overarching principle here should be that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is entitled to a presumption of innocence until he is actually proven guilty. As so many cases have proven – from accused (but exonerated) anthrax attacker Stephen Hatfill to accused (but exonerated) Atlanta Olympic bomber Richard Jewell to dozens if not hundreds of Guantanamo detainees accused of being the “worst of the worst” but who were guilty of nothing – people who appear to be guilty based on government accusations and trials-by-media are often completely innocent. Media-presented evidence is no substitute for due process and an adversarial trial. (Washington’s Blog, Boston Terror Narrative Starts Falling Apart, Global Research, April 23, 2013)

    Absolutely, Glenn Greenwald!

  18. tahoebasha3

    Overall, the Boston tragedy is clearly and sadly being exploited to revamp the “War on terror”, justify the police state apparatus in the US and other Western countries such as Canada, and legitimize attacks on our rights and liberties.

    The Boston Bombing Web of Lies

  19. terryhallinan

    You will perhaps be so kind as to forgive a very jaundiced view since I worked in DIA in competition with that bunch of ignoramuses who are only worsted by the generals and admirals.  

    Tolstoy skewered the generals well and yet I was told often that Tolstoy was taught in War College.  How that could be boggles the mind.

    What would you say to a Syrian terrorized by both the government and the al Queda-linked rebels?  We could help but we don’t care to?  

    I am sure of absolutely nothing except that we are doing the very worst possible in the circumstances – as always.

    We offer encouragement to rebellion, threaten and bluster and then give “non-lethal aid” to the chosen ones.


    Any wonder every side hates us?

  20. tahoebasha3

    We have become masters of creating chaos and strife, pitting this sect against that sect, this tribe against that tribe, providing lethal means to each sect, tribe or religious militants, or insurgents (the people).  Wherever we’ve been about the world, we’ve left this country or that in far worse condition yet than was found to be initially.  I’m sure I don’t have to cite examples for you.

    What would you say to a Syrian terrorized by both the government and the al Queda-linked rebels?  We could help but we don’t care to?  

    Those are dreadful, gawd-awful circumstances and you have to put yourself in the shoes of such a person(s) and what could he/she do?  Yes, we could help, but they’re better off without our brand of help . . . we tend to kick ’em when they’re down, grab their resources and leave them stranded with broken infrastructures, inadequate medicine, food, etc., because “we don’t care to help!”


    I have been struggling with this whole Boston tragedy.  First, know that I don’t have any conclusions about anything, but am disturbed with some very troubling issues and lack of answers surrounding the tragedy.  In addition, the tragedy is so convoluted as to be incredible.  I’ve been trying to plow my way through it and one could lose it doing so.  Anyway, here is a bit I’ve written:

    So, first, go back to the beginning, when the videos, photos, etc. were being poured over by both Police and the FBI, and, voila, they pick out two young persons with backpacks on their backs (hundreds had backpacks at that event).  Next, the “authorities” send out an urgent call for identification, when they KNEW from the get-go who these kids were, inasmuch as they had been stalking them since 2011, including the mother, who had gone back to Russia.  The mother and the eldest son, Tamerlan, went back for a visit to Russia, in 2011, and because of this, were put on the CIA list, suspecting that the eldest brother received terrorist training, yet nothing but nothing ever was discovered.   They say that Tamerlan hooked up with:  “In recent days, US officials have said they are investigating such contacts. The New York Times reported Monday: “Two Russian government officials said Tamerlan Tsarnaev exchanged notes over the Internet with William Plotnikov, a boxer who moved with his parents from Russia to Canada before joining militants in the North Caucasus. “Mr. Tsarnaev met several times in early 2012 with Mansur Makhmud Nidal, an alleged militant from the Russian province of Dagestan and suspected jihadist recruiter.”   Both Plotnikov and Nidal were killed by Russian security forces while Tamerlan Tsarnaev was in Dagestan.  Of course, since then, “they” have tried to tie that incident to Tamerlan, the eldest brother.

    And it goes on and on, turns out an uncle in Chechnya, who was married to the daughter of a CIA agent and even, at a point, lived in his home with his wife.

    And the saga goes on and on — now, they’ve tried to link the two brothers to a few friends.

    And the plot has thickened.  They had planned to go to New York.  But they originally had planned a July 4th event.

    Since having written the 1st P., I actually stumbled onto someone else’s article who hit on the same thought as I had.

    A little more of what I’ve written:

    I am truly troubled.  I am troubled by the absolute damnation of two young Chechya youths, who were “selected” as the absolute unquestionable terrorists in the Boston bombings.  The only thing we know is what the MEDIA has fed us non-stop.  One brother is dead, the other is clinging to life, his “voice box” injured and unable to speak, and HE is responding to interrogations, via writing?  The only knowledge we have at all is what the MEDIA has been feeding us period.  We have not ever heard from the two brothers and we never will, one being dead, and the other gravely ill and incarcerated.  But, fortunately, there are those who just don’t accept the non-stop blather and choose to delve deeper into the whole of the entire story, which is endless, as it is on-going and the continual MEDIA blather.  The constant, non-stop “investigation” and so-called reports to me represent a huge effort to make sure the blame is laid on the brothers, with no questions asked . . . . end of story.

    First, I have no conclusions about anything.  But I have had and do have questions, all unanswered, as to what really happened.  And, given that our government is so secretive and that the media has been a large volume lying machine for so long now, (and even it could not keep the story straight from one MSM to another MSM, confusing matters all the more), it’s unlikely there will ever be any answered questions, or any other conclusions drawn other than those presented to us and propounded relentlessly.  And you might even go so far as to say, the conclusions are somewhat moot at this point, if that’s the way one prefers to view it.  Afterall, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the eldest of the brothers, is dead, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, is and has been in critical condition. (The FBI, in earlier news, had said they do not want Dzhokhar’s medical condition to be known.)  He was shot in the neck and other places, and he cannot speak as more than likely his “voice box” has been damaged, and he’s probably just about the same as dead, himself.  Nonetheless, I have been troubled by the tragedy, itself, but the aftermath, as well.  I also realize that whatever we can and do perpetrate on persons of foreign descent and a different religion, would and can ultimately subject us Americans, in general, to the same treatment.

    – As you no doubt know, the FBI had been tracking the Tsarnaev brothers for over a couple of years, and eventually, Tamlerlan, was put on the CIA’s list.  After the tragic bombings, all kinds of videos, photos were swept over and, voila, they came up with the infamous picture of the two brothers walking with backpacks on their backs.  They (the FBI) then put out a “broadcast” seeking identification of the two in the photo.  This, when the FBI knew full well who they were in the picture when they selected it.  

    I have more, but I’ll stop for now. Yes, I know, some of it overlaps (because one is part of an e-mail and the other part of writing).  

    Here are some links should you be so inclined:

    Contractors” at Boston Marathon Stood Near Bomb, Left Before Detonation

    Knapsacks those of Craft Interl.  

    The Marathon Bombings, Privacy and the Question “Why?”

    Craft International Services hired guns at the Boston Marathon: Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor’s Men Working

    Craft International Services hired guns at the Boston Marathon: Why Such Secrecy about Private Military Contractor’s Men Working

    FBI Responsibility for US Terror Plots

    Heading towards a police state: Destroying Ourselves

    Bill Moyers & Glenn Greenwald on the High Cost of Government Secrecy

    The Boston Bombing Web of Lies

    and finally, from Craig Paul Roberts

    (Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal, has held numerous university appointments. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research.)

    You Are the Hope!

    I have a gazillion other links, such as Yahoo blather ones, etc., all with the latest “fabrication” of news, and many others.  One of which said that there were actors involved, such as the paraplegic who lost both legs (it seems he was a veteran who had previously lost both legs) and more.

    We will never, ever know the truth, bottom line!  What we do know is that there were shocked and injured people at an event that should have been peaceful and there were two brothers, one a citizen, the other a would be citizen, whose stories will never be known.

  21. terryhallinan

    with Graham Greene’s Quiet American:

    This is an eerily prophetic and, therefore, deeply disturbing book.  Ostensibly the story of a love triangle involving a naive American spook, a jaded English journalist and a young Vietnamese girl, lurking just beneath the surface is an allegory for the whole experience of America in Vietnam.


    The scenario is played out over and over.

    We didn’t shine in reports but at least the aging counterintelligence crew mostly left over from WWII saw the truth of matters easily enough.  Once they let slip one sentence in a lengthy intelligence report that indicated we might not be winning.  They were called on the carpet by Gen. “Hanging Sam” [from Nuremburg trials] Williams who seemed not averse to enhancing his reputation.

    A bit of intelligence from an old bombing in which I was one of the bombees.  

    There were various explosive experts from our office, the Embassy, the CIA, the French Surete, the Vietnamese secret police that also called themselves Surete I think examing the dangling mechanical guts of something that was generally being considered the triggering mechanism.  

    Another bombee wandering by gave a pained squeal: “My watch.”

    It was.

    Tough business that forensics stuff.

    “Naive CIA” spook is a redundancy IMO.

    Best,  Terry

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