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Court Rules Again: Abu Ghraib Photos Must Be Made Public.

by: buhdydharma

Thu Mar 19, 2009 at 12:21:03 PDT        
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Bad news for the torturers...

Especially now that it has been proven that this was the result of the Bush Torture Policy, that this was part of an overall program of torture approved at the highest levels....and not the work "a few bad apples." Or as Limbaugh put it, "blowing off steam."


NEW YORK - March 17 - A federal court rejected a Bush administration request to reconsider a decision that ordered the Department of Defense to release photographs depicting the abuse of detainees by U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit rejected the government's request to have the full appeals court rehear a decision from last September ordering the release of the photos as part of an American Civil Liberties Union lawsuit seeking information on the abuse of prisoners held in U.S. custody overseas.

The Obama administration, which has not taken a position on the litigation, has 90 days to appeal to the Supreme Court if it chooses to challenge the September order.

"This decision is a stinging rejection of the Bush administration's attempt to keep the public in the dark about the widespread abuse of prisoners held in U.S. custody abroad," said ACLU staff attorney Amrit Singh, who argued the case before the court. "These photographs demonstrate that prison abuse was not aberrational and not confined to Abu Ghraib. Release of the photographs would send a powerful message that the new administration intends to make a clean break from the unaccountability of the Bush years."

Another test of the Obama Administration.

If they appeal to block the release, they are morally, if not legally, suppressing evidence of torture from being made public.

Mr. Holder?

Update: It also makes it worth referring to this essay again and reposting the video...

Senator Whitehouse Prepares the Nation for Torture Horrors

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We're going to need a bigger fan! (4.00 / 5)
Get your umbrellas ready. The shit storm will begin when those photos hit the public. Bush/Cheney humiliated our nation before the world. The more the images are seen the closer we get to the Truth.

This will be enough to take the economy off the front page for a cycle or two. Then again, I still haven't seen or heard one word of follow-up to the NYT's Pentagon Propaganda Generals since that was printed back in the Pleistocene Era anywhere except in blogs.

"Three things cannot be long hidden: the Sun, the Moon and the Truth." Buddha


My bet is (4.00 / 5)
the photos will never see the light of day.

We'll learn they were routinely destroyed.


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I hope you're wrong, Viet71! (4.00 / 4)
Also, there are those, such as Sen. Whitehouse who have already seen these photos, so if they are "lost" or "destroyed," there are those that have seen them and one would hope would vouch for them.  

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If you dig around the net (4.00 / 4)
you can actually find quite a few on your own. I've found dozens that never made it into blogs in general.

Side note: Remember when KBR required all employees to turn in the cell phones if they had cameras built it? Second half of last year as I recall.

Important note: Almost every American over there had a cell phone and almost every cell phone has a camera. Where are the pix? I now some who brought them home but won't share the horror of what they saw. Can we get the vets (IVAW) to srand up on this one?

Just thinkin'.

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If you think about those cell phones, I (4.00 / 3)
imagine you are quite correct for those that had access to Abu Ghraib -- so, yes, there could literally hundreds that we don't even know about in that manner, as yet.  

But I was talking about those that the government is already in possession of, but so far has not released to the ACLU!

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Here's a few (4.00 / 3)
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And those, as bad as they are, are mild (4.00 / 3)
The (reported) videos of children being raped (see the link to the other essay) will be the bombshell.

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so....Roar Louder!!!


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WMD (0.00 / 0)
Words of Mass Diversion
Words of Mass Distraction
Words of Mass Division

Now we know it happened, we know it was bad, we know it continues.  Is not "evidence" meaningless if we know NOTHING will be done about it.  

We still have that 30% embracing torture if it "saves American lives", you know who I'm talking about the "redstaters".  On the "left" you have the non-impeach Nancy Pelosi.  By that alone allowed it to continue unquestioned for another two years.

Why specifically at this time when the US is hated round the world for financial shenanegans would a re-release, perhaps a full graphic disclosure complete re-release be beneficial?  I'm going to pull a Nancy and say, gee whiz, that is just not productive.

Are you a global player?  If not you are screwed.

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First it is not a re-release (4.00 / 4)
these are records of torture that have NOT been released.

The reason is that they are records of torture, at a time when (in case you have noticed) some of us are trying to prosecute the people who ORDERED this torture.

You value America's IMAGE over justice for an entire program of State Sponsored torture?

Or are you just uniformed?

Poll: Most want inquiry into anti-terror tactics

Frankly I am stunned by your response!

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


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Justice? Are you serious? (4.00 / 3)
When might I ask have you last seen justice in this country.  Maybe ten years ago.

Am I furious "my" country tortured, ordered torture and or rendered people to other torture friendly locals, sure I am.  Fact is though "our" fully functional government with it's three branches of checks and balances has obviously and consistently failed to respond at all to something that has been going on for years.  Ah, but that was all Bush you might say and Obama will set everything right.  On to Valtin's essays of torture waffledome.

Yeah, I might settle for torture prosecutions of a few underlings yet I would much rather they delve headlong into the galactic lie machine that is the official 911 story.  That is after all the event which started it all, the event which mobilized the US against Islam.  A much needed new enemy to replace Russia.

As to the US image in the rest of the world?  Quite sure we already have none.

Whatever you do to others you also do to yourself!


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If we open a crack in the (4.00 / 3)
injustice machine on the torture CONSPIRACY it MAY open doors  onto YOUR favorite conspiracy as well.

They are the same players after all.

Reality is the result of war between two rival groups of programmers,

so....Roar Louder!!!


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Very true (4.00 / 1)
And I might not be opposed to real, benevolent, an all good world government but the history of man says that 1-5%, those sociopaths are the ones that rise to power.

Whatever you do to others you also do to yourself!

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release them (4.00 / 8)
release all of the truth. The one that is fully documented that is apparent to the world given the fall on every level. To redact is absurd, both financially, politically and has now caught up with reality. The lies cannot stand they do not even work to uphold a reality that is falling. I worked voted for Obama but in actuality voted worked for a justice or a principle far removed from the politics we globally must suffer under, unless we unhook from this bogus 'system' that rains down on all our heads, collectively. People call for righting the financial system, the foreign policy system they are all the one system the one that tells us to let go of our humanity and work for evil. The masters of evil that I truly hope go broke our last best hope.      

Great news (4.00 / 3)
I don't share your optimism re Whitehouse, esp. since I got an email from him lauding Leahy's truth commission, and asking for money for Leahy. Maybe I'm being too judgmental, though.

This will be a very interesting next 90 days for many reasons. In my estimation, a perfect storm re the torture issue is brewing for early June (also end of time for the "task force" reports engendered by Obama's exec orders in January).

Best, V.

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