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The ouzo effect

by: gjohnsit

Sun Feb 07, 2010 at 14:45:02 PST        
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  A strategist at the Deutsche Bank had something interesting to say last week regarding the economic crisis in southern Europe.
 "The problems currently faced by peripheral Europe could be a dress rehearsal for what the U.S. and U.K. may face further down the road," Jim Reid, a strategist at Deutsche Bank in London, wrote in a research note today.
 It seems impossible that what is going on in Greece has anything to do with America. After all, Greece has defaulted on its debts so often over the last two centuries that you could almost set your watch to it. It was always contained in the past because Greece's economy is so small, so why would this time be different this time?

 And yet, it isn't contained this time. It is spreading and no one knows how far it might go.

gjohnsit :: The ouzo effect
Contagion: The likelihood of significant economic changes in one country spreading to other countries. This can refer to either economic booms or economic crises.

 The first time the term "Tequila Effect" was used in reference to economics was after Mexico defaulted on its foreign debt in August 1982. In response, international banks stopped lending to all of Latin America. The result was a currency and fiscal crisis from the Rio Grande to Patagonia and everywhere in between.
 What did Argentina have to do with Mexico other than both speak Spanish? Nothing. That's how contagion works. It doesn't have to make sense. There are only two emotions in the markets - fear and greed. Both of those emotions can overcome reason and logic in a split second. Both of these emotions are self-reinforcing.

 Contagion tends to happen in periods of economic stress. When Austria's largest bank, Creditanstalt, went bankrupt in 1931 its effects swept around the world. Within a few weeks Britain was forced off the gold standard and credit dried up to Wall Street banks. The event turned an economic downturn into the Great Depression.

 The best example of contagion is also the most recent - the 1997 Asian Currency Crisis. On July 2, 1997, Thailand was forced to devalue its currency.
 It didn't get much news coverage because Thailand's economy was so small (GDP around $500 billion). But the financial markets noticed, and panicked in spite of the fact the global economic condition was relatively strong at the time. Within a few months hundreds of millions of working class people were suddenly thrust into poverty. The contagion kept spreading, like an organism seeking out a weak host. It eventually claimed the economies of Russia and Argentina, even though they had absolutely nothing to do with Thailand.

 Which brings us back to Europe. Contagion usually takes the form of a flight of capital.
This is what happened in Asia in 1997, Russia in 1998, and what is happening today in Greece.

 A staggering €8bn-€10bn (£7bn-£8.7bn) may have been taken out of Greece by private investors since it became engulfed by economic turmoil in November.
 "In the last four to six weeks a lot of money has been moved abroad; I've heard extraordinary figures," analyst, Kostas Panagopoulos said.
  "People are moving funds either because they don't trust our banking system, want to avoid what they fear will be taxes on deposits or are simply anxious about the future of our economy."

  Like Thailand, Greece has a relatively small economy (GDP $350 billion). Compared to the economies in the rest of Europe, its troubles shouldn't be more than a nuisance. Yet Spain felt it necessary to point out the obvious last week.
 "Spain's situation is not like that of Greece, not in terms of public debt nor in terms of economic strength," Ms. Salgado said in an interview with La Cope radio.
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 Spain's economy has melted down as fast as Greece's has, but it started from a far stronger position. Regardless, the markets are demanding far higher returns on loans to Spain than just a week ago.
  Spain's problem is that it is next door to Portugal.

 Portuguese government bonds weakened Wednesday after the country's debt agency sold fewer 12-month Treasury bills than planned at an auction as investors required sharply higher yields than at the previous auction two weeks ago in low volume demand.
 What happened here was that Portugal suddenly yanked back on their bond sale, not because they didn't need the money, but because if they had offered the full amount there may not have been enough buyers. That's called a failed auction, and it usually happens right before a country defaults.

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 What all these countries have in common is that they are all PIGS. That's the unpleasant term that the financial markets are using for Portugal, Ireland, Greece, and Spain. Being a member of this exclusive club has its disadvantages.

 Fears of sovereign debt contagion across the eurozone sent European markets sharply lower on Thursday as negative sentiment spread to Wall Street with US markets also hit by worse than expected jobless data
 European and UK stock markets fell more than 2 per cent, with Portuguese and Spanish stock markets leading the declines with falls of 5 per cent or more. Investors also sold sovereign debt in these periphery eurozone countries and sought the safety of the dollar and US Treasuries.
 Reflecting those concerns, the western Europe Markit SovX index, which measures the cost of insuring against the risk of default, widened beyond 100 basis points for the first time amid heavy buying in the sovereign credit default swap market. CDS spreads on Portugal hit record highs, up 28 basis points to 222 basis points, while Greek credit default swaps rose 21 basis points to 412 basis points, heading closer to records of 421 basis points reached in January.
 The most immediate concerns for the markets is domestic resistance to austerity measures. In Portugal it was parliament that defeated extreme cutbacks in social programs. In Greece, it is the looming threat of massive, and violent, strikes.

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 It should be noted that technically, the troubles didn't start with Greece. They started when Dubai defaulted. It may or may not be a coincidence that the central bankers of the world are right now having a secret meeting in Sydney.

 Representatives from 24 central banks and monetary authorities including the US Federal Reserve and European Central Bank landed in Sydney to meet tomorrow at a secret location, the Herald Sun reports.
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 "This does feel like '08 and '07 all over again whereby we had these sort of little fires pop up and they are supposedly contained but in reality they are not quite contained,'' said H3 Global Advisors chief executive Andrew Kaleel.
 "Dubai should have been an isolated incident and now we are seeing issues with Greece, Portugal and Spain.''
 Speaking of little fires, its a good idea to keep an eye on Latvia, a nation with the same population of Dubai. Since the global credit crisis started in 2007, Latvia's economy has shrunk by 25% and is expected to shrink another 4% this year. Meanwhile, the IMF is demanding that the Latvian government cut its spending another 6%. This cannot continue much longer without a popular backlash.

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  The scale of this building sovereign crisis cannot be understated. Some are saying that it could make the Euro currency "unstable". Unless it gets contained quickly we could be looking at the next leg down in a global margin call.

 The EU's refusal to offer Greece anything beyond stern words and a one-month deadline for harsher austerity - while admirable in one sense - is to misjudge how fast confidence is ebbing. Greece's drama has already metastasised into a wider systemic crisis. The world risks a replay of the Lehman collapse if this runs unchecked, this time involving sovereign dominoes.
 The scale matches America's sub-prime/Alt-A adventure and assorted CDOs and SIVS of the Greenspan fling. The parallels are closer than Europe cares to admit.
 At the very same time that this crisis is hitting, the bailouts of the world are ending. Both the Federal Reserve and the Bank of England are about to cut off their quantitative easing. They aren't alone.
  It may seem counter-intuitive for the bailouts and stimulus to be cut right when a global economic crisis is building, but it isn't. The sovereign debt crisis we are now witnessing is because of the bailouts. More deficit spending will just increase the financial pressure. What we are witnessing is a limit to the Keynesian solution.
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The ouzo effect | 12 comments
Are G7 countries "out of fiscal bullets" to deal with... (4.00 / 2)
a new sovereign debt crisis?  This article at Baseline Scenario discusses the current EU economic crisis, and possible responses by the EU nations and/or IMF, and concludes that:

And this time, given that they already used almost all their fiscal bullets, it will be considerably more difficult for governments to respond effectively when they do wake up.

Well, thankfully, at least we have Palin's antics at the Tea Party convention to distract everyone from this unfortunate set of circumstances.


Greece never recovered fr their Olympic expenses (4.00 / 2)
... and they had bad drought and fires in the summer- more climate change problems.

gjohnsit, I just put in (4.00 / 1)
50+ hours at work in 5 days, I'm in pain because of it, and my brain isn't firing on all cylinders: I can barely add 2+2 at this point.

So I suspect I missed the finer points of your analysis ("contagion" I get.  I think).

I don't get the charts, though, and I really don't quite understand what you mean here:

It may seem counter-intuitive for the bailouts and stimulus to be cut right when a global economic crisis is building, but it isn't. The sovereign debt crisis we are now witnessing is because of the bailouts. More deficit spending will just increase the financial pressure.


One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins

my understanding is that we are in an inescapable deflationary collapse. (4.00 / 1)
More debt only increases pressure on not lending, because asking for loans only makes the case that fewer are credit worthy.  I have difficulty with the entire concept of "confidence" myself, in everyday terms, but after a certain point beyond everyday, loss of confidence makes perfect sense.

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Thanks... (4.00 / 1)
no offense, OK?...but that sounds simplistic to me.  I mean, I can understand loss of confidence very well -- I just have trouble applying it to bankers or multinational corporations.

In their cases I believe it is more about defending indefensible profit margins and huge bonuses.  Accept a smaller profit margin?  pffft!  Ain't gonna happen.

I say, Tax the rich at the same levels as Eisenhower did.

Either the filthy rich will flee this country -- and good riddance! -- or they will reinvest their money for the tax breaks, and we'll be back on track for mid-20th-century economic growth.

Whatever happens, taxing the rich is the quickest, easiest way to "grow" an economy.  Tax cuts are (pardon me) "Voodoo Economics."

One function of the income gap is that the people at the top of the heap have a hard time even seeing those at the bottom. They practically need a telescope.--Molly Ivins


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To put it more simply (4.00 / 2)
Well, the charts are to help demonstrate the debt problems of Europe (and U.S.) from different perspectives. The first one is strictly government debt where you can see why Greece is in trouble.
 The second chart shows bank assets, and you see why Iceland and Ireland got in trouble when their banking systems failed.
 The 3rd chart I think is the most interesting because it shows overall debt of nations, and Japan and the UK are the leaders (with Spain coming from behind). It's interesting because supposedly these nations are almost reserve currency nations.

 The comment at the bottom is somewhat self-evident - it's the debt levels. The markets are responding to unsustainable levels of debt in the system caused by the recession and the bailouts. The markets are afraid that the nations won't be able to find new lenders for the increasing debt. More borrowing is just going to increase that pressure.


[ Parent ]
An even better explanation (4.00 / 1)
In ten paragraphs or less.
 First the governments bail out the banks who were (are) basically insolvent. Then these governments, especially in Europe, see their balance sheets explode and face escalating concerns over sovereign default. The IMF now predicts that the government debt-to-GDP ratio in the G20 nations will explode to 118% by 2014 from pre-crisis levels of around 80%.

Now, the ball is put back onto the banks because many have exposure to the areas of Europe that are facing substantial fiscal problems right now. According to the Wall Street Journal, U.K. banks have $193 billion of exposure to Ireland. German banks have the same amount of exposure and an additional $240 billion to Spain. Many international bond mutual funds also have sizeable exposure to sovereign debt of Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain as well. Contagion risks are back. Stay defensive and expect to see heightened volatility.

In a nutshell, toxic assets have basically been swept under the rug in the hopes that we will outgrow the problem. Leverage ratios across every level of society are still reaching unprecedented levels as the public sector sacrifices the sanctity of its balance sheet in its quest to stabilize the dubious financial position of the household and banking sectors in many parts of the world.



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The US: (4.00 / 2)
Deficit as % of GDP 2010= 10.64 (projected) (up from 3.24 in 2008)

Or--between Spain and Greece.  


The bailouts went to the wrong people. (4.00 / 4)
They went to the top companies. The auto bailouts actually encouraged outsourcing. The stimulus was badly thought out as well.

On top of that increase US military spending (which causes pressure on all other countries to spend as well, either defensively against the US, or because the US is forcing them to) is all debt as well.  

The net result is more debt, stronger 'too big to fail' companies, but no jobs, increased global instability (when everyone has more military stuff, everyone fears their neighbor will use it-and someone will) .

So, now Obama wants to cut social services, but still increase military spending even more. And, the EU and IMF is putting huge pressure on Greece and Spain to cut social services too. Goldman Sachs's president has been invited to Greece, in hopes GS would help sell Greece's bonds, and told them do exactly that-- or else.

Meanwhile Stiglitz went there, and told them the exact opposite--that more government social and job creation spending is the only way out of the woods.    


unfortunately... (4.00 / 2)
paying of the thugs comes first. They'll hurt you if you don't cater to them. The general public is lost in fantasies and opium dreams.

Visit me at Sacred Bells

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Which is why the only way to 'win' is (4.00 / 1)
to strike, go to the streets, put some fear on the other side.  See Greece. Endlessly hoping for  'change' (trade mark) does nothing.  

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