Ok, so the CIA destroyed tapes documenting the “interrogation” of Abu Zubaydah. A tacit admission of torture. I urge you all to click the link and read and rec blueness’s diary. It cites, among many other sources, Ron Suskind’s 2006 book, The One Percent Doctrine in which the case of Zubaydah is laid out extensively. blueness uses this quote:
“I said he was important,” Bush reportedly told Tenet at one of their daily meetings. “You’re not going to let me lose face on this, are you?” “No sir, Mr. President,” Tenet replied. Bush “was fixated on how to get Zubaydah to tell us the truth,” Suskind writes, and he asked one briefer, “Do some of these harsh ‘methods really work?”
(blueness’s diary has scrolled off, btw…but please still recommend it)
There is absolutely NO excuse for Congress not to open direct hearings into Bush’s role in this horror story. Everyone with any brains knows Bush authorized torture. Everyone knows an entire structure of secret prisons and an ‘airline’ to service them were set up to torture people without the benefit of any kind of a trial or any establishment of guilt. Does anyone really believe that the CIA did all of this with NO authorization?
What possible excuse can Congress have not to directly investigate these crimes and Bush’s involvement in them?
Everyone seems to be excusing Nancy Pelosi’s non-objection to waterboarding when she was briefed on it as a product of the times….right after 9/11. They say she could not object due to he same old argument…that it would injure the Democrats by appearing “soft on terrorism” ….soft on torture.
Well, Nancy….here is your chance to make up for it and remove any suggestion of complicity.
Open Direct Investigations into George Bush’s role in authorizing torture and establishing an extensive infrastructure designed explicitly to torture.
Now
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They intentionally destroyed evidence of what they did with this guy. Would they have destroyed this video if it showed them “coddling” the witness? Then we have to examine the proffered
reasons for their destroying the tape:
Does this statement make any sense? Not to me.
My presumption, and I think the only intelligent one given the above, is that the tapes show torture.
2. Are we now going to have to rely on the Democrats, and explicitly Nancy Pelosi, to investigate this? I hope not. I’d prefer that they get a “special counsel” appointed and that Congress just stay out of it until decisions can be made about whom to prosecute. We don’t want a reply of Ollie North.
here in orange.
for borrowing from my comment elsewhere, but the torture issue is not new, not at all.
It’s just that they finally got busted.
The current torture manual was literally written in Honduras, in Spanish:
Like everything else the School of the Americas (SOA) did, the governing manual from the original Honduran torture laboratory was written in Spanish:
How many people came from there?
Hold that thought about “foster cooperation among multi-national military forces” and think back to Michael Moore’s satirical look at the “coalition of the willing.” Honduras? El Salvador? Nicaragua? Well… guess who made the payroll? The same people who were trained to do the filthy work of Iran-Contra era.
It turns out that this “coalition of the willing” is well-peopled by nations which have had armies trained at US taxpayer expense – most likely trained by SOA grads who have gone on to replicate themselves internationally courtesy of US expense:
My conclusion? The chief mission of the “coalition of the willing” is to get these 100’s of thousands, maybe millions of mercenaries onto the national payroll.
Oil schmoil, sure that’s a background concern but the US gets most of its oil from Canada and Mexico (cheaper if you don’t push it across an ocean).
The US has created a monster killer army of international proportions.
Good for you for demanding answers of the torture issue. But we need to remember that it started in the bogus name of “fighting communism” under the aegis of the Iran/Contra affair.
and did not object but helped make it legal and acceptable then it goes along way to explain why these congresscritters are so loath to both expose or use the law to prosecute these war criminals. Throwing out all the bums involved, from both parties may be the only way to get to the heart of the matter and reverse or stop this regime of terror. Good luck however as they are firmly entrenched and not going anywhere. They have their narrative of fear to use, security trumps all.
a few days back when this all began to break out. I remembered hearing about the Saudi Prince deaths too on the blogs but it was considered some tinfoil stuff back then. It all makes a lot of sense of now…..very sadly…and a human being who was already suffering and probably tormented was tortured savagely and people just started up and dying like flies.
Pelosi must act against Bush on the issue of torture and war-crimes or she will go down in history as a torture advocate herself.
I think we should explore the possibility of prosecuting Nancy Pelosi if she won’t act against Bush.
great Diary BD.
If the following turns out to be true – it morphs the torture of these men from unbelieveable madness to the absurd
http://www.themovieblog.com/20…
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/ar…
there are also theories out there that this was leaked to hurt the dem’s
it’s real rough still but soon we’ll be able to pack this off to other web sites and webmasters along with some other cool tools.
http://outlaw.100webspace.net/…
Just about says it all, doesn’t it?
with every passing day. This story just broke and there is also a diary up at Orange about it. A woman, now 22, has filed a lawsuit claiming she was gang raped in the green zone and KBR forced here silence. The story is gruesome.
http://www.transworldnews.com/…
Unfortunately, when it comes to the United States, I think Neil Young (another favorite Canadian, TMWAP) said it best:
“Everyone knows this is nowhere.”