Torture
You made me look like an asshole. I promised all those people I called on the phone that the new Democratic Congress would change things. All you’ve succeeded in doing, is continuing to do what they Republics were doing – only not quite as well as them.
Do Democrats in Washington think the people of this country are still cowering in fear in their basements, quaking in dread about the next terrorist attack? Do they believe that most Americans think it’s OK to wiretap their phones, track their Internet usage and torture them – because that is what we are coming to, and if you do not believe that, I do not know what to say to you – because those Americans think it will keep them safer?
Do Democrats in Washington believe that most people in this country believe that our continued occupation of Iraq is keeping us safer from terrorist attacks? Do they think that we believe that our interests are served by Blackwater and KBR receiving hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to continue doing what they’ re doing?
Never faced an enemy like this before? What – an enemy that beheads its prisoners? An enemy that tortures its prisoners? An enemy that targets innocent women and children? [HERE RUN OKLAHOMA CITY PHOTO] Wrong. [LINK THAT TO TORTURE DIARY]
The so-called “ticking time bomb” scenario can also be blown out of the water [USE MARINE INTERROGATOR ON GUADALCANAL] During a time of war. And if anybody can actually point to a single example of the ticking time bomb scenario actually happening, I’d like to hear about it.
Nytimes article on zubaydah from sept 2006
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09…
http://www.progressive.org/mag…
Advocates of the ticking bomb often cite the brutal torture of Abdul Hakim Murad in Manila in 1995, which they say stopped a plot to blow up a dozen trans-Pacific aircraft and kill 4,000 innocent passengers. Except, of course, for the simple fact that Murad’s torture did nothing of the sort. As The Washington Post has reported, Manila police got all their important information from Murad in the first few minutes when they seized his laptop with the entire bomb plot. All the supposed details gained from the sixty-seven days of incessant beatings, spiced by techniques like cigarettes to the genitals, were, as one Filipino officer testified in a New York court, fabrications fed to Murad by Philippine police.
More on bojinka wapo 2001
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…
ticking time bomb
http://www.progressive.org/mag…
outstanding essay on crooked timber
http://crookedtimber.org/2005/…
and on fafblog
http://fafblog.blogspot.com/20…
va law review (PDF)
http://www.virginialawreview.o…
(Even the logic of the ticking time bomb scenario falls apart under any reflection. To wit: We are dealing with people who are willing to die – indeed, who look forward to dying – in the pursuit of their terrorist aims. If one of them is captured, for what possible reason on earth would they not be willing to die under interrogation? And – make no mistake – waterboarding is not “simulated” drowning; it is actual drowning, the pace of which is administered at the discretion of the interrogator.)
zubaydah bullshit
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…
iraqi torutre complex found
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
Paragraph from RadioShack get a headset. The palest cellular get the new phones.
If torturing were necessary as a result of the terrorist bombings of September 11, why wasn’t it necessary as a result of the terrorist bombings of the Oklahoma City federal building?
Look up the Marine Corps General who advocated on or about December 20 for the mass release of Iraqi detainees. Also, on the same day in the LA Times, look for the story of the Iranian who was released.
The destruction of the CIA torture tapes will reveal that Ilya carry out in this story, or whatever the agents suppose that name was, completely bogus. No information of value was obtained, and torture definitely to place. Where are the suppose of plots that were stopped as a result of this interrogation? Who are the suppose that it terrorist operatives who were intercepted as a result of this interrogation? Administration is never fail to trumpet its “successes” in this so-called war on terror; even though most of them have turned out to be dismal failures. And here referenced the many court cases that have fallen apart for ridiculous so-called terrorist groups in the United States.
Mail the reimbursement check to the credit union.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/…
nosenko story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20…
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