Lets Talk

What better day than “hump day” to talk menstruation? But since I didn’t give Rusty the requested 72 hours warning, I’ll start off with a little humor.

This is part of an episode of “Everybody Loves Raymond” that I thought was one of the funniest half hours of television I’ve ever seen. If memory serves me, Ray had audio-tapped Debra during a time he thought she was being particularly unreasonable due to PMS in order to convince her that she needed to take some pills to make his life a little easier. Not surprisingly, Debra was not pleased. Here’s what happened next:

I guess we can all agree that we’ve made some progress in being able to talk about this if network tv can air this on a family comedy show. Things were much worse when I was growing up.

At 13, when I started menstruating, my body didn’t produce all the hormones to regulate my periods. The result was that I bled profusely and continually. During this time, certain things became daily struggles for me. Like trying to figure out how to exit a room at school because the back of my dress was stained. Or being fearful of spending the night at a friends because I worried I’d soil the sheets during the night.

Eventually I ended up in the hospital. I got blood transfusions, a D&C, and was started on the pill. For me this was not a traumatic physical event. But it certainly was a trauma emotionally. The reason is that NO ONE would talk to me about it…not even my Mom. I felt total shame for something my body was doing.

As a result of this experience, I vowed as an adult that I would talk about menstruation and periods and bleeding whenever and with whomever I wanted to. This is normal bodily functioning for half of the world’s population. So why do we need to pretend like its a secret?

Here’s a piece of artwork by Kat Grandy titled “Go With The Flow” and her description:

I have been writing all my life. I always figure things out better if I put them down on paper. I remember what it was like to be a young girl who always thought that having a period was a very secret thing. My mom was very matter of fact about the whole thing so I took it in stride until I saw how things were at school.

I remember the first time. I was at my aunt’s in another town, and I had a white skirt on and the red dots were everywhere. We were at the restaurant when someone told me. I remember being so mortified as if they could see me naked. That feeling stayed with me a long time.

I have been painting with watercolor these last few years and I let the paint take me where it wants to – I was painting this woman wild and free and since I love the color red these days I thought that maybe it would be good to show that red is a good thing – it pumps throughout our body and makes us a warm-blooded animal and so the blood that leaves our body does not have to be considered a bad thing either. It is real, bright, rich and a necessary part of our womaness. Hence – Go With the Flow.

What are your thoughts, stories, experiences or questions about menstruation? Here are a few things I wonder about:

1. Whenever two or more women live together, they always get on the same cycle. I’ve always wondered how that happens. It seems like our bodies communicate and/or affect each other. But there might be a more simplistic explanation for it.

2. In addition to the events I’ve described above, as an adult I’ve had two gynecological surgeries – one for fibroid tumors and the other for endometriosis. On both occasions, I delayed seeking medical help until very late in the process. I think this is because, when you bleed and have pain once a month, its hard to know when your symptoms have crossed the line into a problem area.

3. I’ve read that in some tribal cultures, women menstruated together (see #1 above) and would gather together for those days and bleed into the ground. This was considered a sacred time for women and it was understood that they were wise in a deep and meaningful way during the ritual. I’ve often wondered if some of the causes of PMS might be that we don’t honor these cycles in that kind of way. And what kind of wisdom is the world missing out on when we don’t listen to ourselves during this important time?

4. And, speaking of cycles, I’ve also assumed that our 5 day work week was designed by men. I wonder what kind of cycle we might have developed for work and rest if women had been in charge.

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  1. to push the “save” button on this than I had imagined. I guess some of the old feelings about menstruation and secrets die hard.  

  2. …watch ‘everybody loves raymond’, that is… 😉

    i can talk about periods all day long….my daughters and i.  my mother, not so much…

    i especially like to tease my youngest…when the always commercial comes on about sending ‘protection’ (their word) to girls in africa so they can attend school when they have their periods, they say ‘use your period for good’

    and i like to tease ‘thing 2’ by accusing her of using her period for evil..  :0

    personally, i feel you about difficulty distinguishing between normal biological functions and dysfunction….especially since doctors can be so dismissive.  well, that’s been my experience anyway..

    its pretty sad when you wake up from emergency surgery and cant wait to call your gynecologist and say ‘i told you so’…

  3. I took care of a 12 year old girl who also had life threatening  bleeding on her first menstruation due to a hormonal imbalance. The wrinkle was that she had contracted hepatitis C ( I think it was C ) as a result of a blood transfusion as a young child.

    The parents were reluctant to sign the consent to transfuse. I was freaking out because I had eight other patients and one who was going to bleed to death if she did not get transfusions and some hormones. The Dr. on call had the most beautiful bedside manner. I just adored him. He managed to convince them with me as a witness.

    I often think of her and hope she was not too traumatized by that experience. Real sweet family, to.

  4. He deserves a mega pony.

    I just got an IUD put in and one of the anticipated side effects is slightly wacky menstruation for the first three months or so and supposedly worse cramping. My cycle is totally off. I had my cycle then continued to spot right to my next cycle which I just finished. I anticipated horrible cramps and they were pretty tolerable compared to my teen years.

    I don’t know why men are so freaked out by menstruation, it is just blood. I am not too big on that stuff that gets in between toes. Ick.

  5. I know I need to get out more, but what is it and when did it happen?

    • Alma on April 10, 2008 at 01:21

    2. In addition to the events I’ve described above, as an adult I’ve had two gynecological surgeries – one for fibroid tumors and the other for endometriosis. On both occasions, I delayed seeking medical help until very late in the process. I think this is because, when you bleed and have pain once a month, its hard to know when your symptoms have crossed the line into a problem area.

    Me too!  On the waiting so long because its always been painful.  Endemetriosis stage 3 going on 4 before it was taken care of.  I always said I was fine for gyno appointments because to me it was normal.

    And the same will probably happen with my daughter.  She’s been on the pill since she started menstruating because of inter-uterine bleeding.  She tried going off a few times, but both times the bleeding just started and never stopped.  She has always had the bad fetal, roll on the ground cramps too.

  6. A subject that indeed needs more discussion, but that men are NOT allowed to initiate, so thank you.

    I have a unique experience with the subject, apart from being a husband and lover….it was also my ‘job’ to discuss this. I ran an organization that put on Sweat Lodges for the public. In the tradition and belief of the Medicine Teacher that I ‘worked for’ women were not allowed to participate in the Lodge when they were “on their Moon.”  Part of my task was telling them this. I still have scars.

    To be flippant (since I am a brave person) telling a menstruating woman that he is not allowed to participate in ceremony after she has set aside the weekend and traveled hither and yon to do so was sometimes, to put it mildly, excruciatingly painful. For both of us,

    Fortunately, the NA tradition also included Moon Lodges. The Sweat Lodge is a cleansing and purification ceremony. In the tradition in question, a womans Moontime is considered a separate and more powerful type of cleansing, and women are at their most powerful at that time, so powerful in fact that the Medicine Teacher excluded them because of the fact that they would overpower his weak male Medicine and in effect “hijack” the ceremony (to use a blogging term) with their energy.

    Convincing a woman (mostly Gringas) on her Moon that this was the reason she was being excluded was quite a challenge! but it did serve to teach me a LOT in the extended conversations that ensued! Fortunately for them, there were usually at least a couple of women on their Moon, and often several, and the Moon Lodges sounded MUCH more fun than the Sweat Lodges, lol. Talking to the women afterwards, many said it was one of the most empowering experiences of their life. Especially when one of our regulars who had had the experience before participated.

    I won’t go into the details (I’m not THAT brave!) but I would urge all women to explore the alternative ways in both NA and Wiccan tradition of looking at and honoring the Moon time. It IS a sacred time for women and can be used as a VERY potent empowerig time/event, instaed of as ‘The Curse.’ I firmly believe that this is one of the keys ALL women taking back the power that they innately posses.

    Thanks again NL, for broaching the wall around this. I await the response to my comment with trepidation and the hope that any offense in may have inadvertently given will be offset by kindness to a mere male. As I learned to say back then, …yes women have to go through ‘events’ like menarche, pregnancy/childbirth and menopause and that can be viewed as a curse…..but men are idiots 24/7 in comparison….so it all balances out….sorta.

    • kj on April 10, 2008 at 03:58

    ovarian cysts are gawd-awful painful.  like a knife that’s been heated in a fire, then plunged into you with great force. (not that i know that for sure, but it might be close!)  i used to get them a lot. JBK would do ‘energy’ transfer stuff, gently hold the top of my head with the palm of one hand while his other palm rested on my stomach. sometimes that’s the only way the pain would subside. we went to a Rolfer back in those days and she taught us the palm channeling thing.

    went to a bastard gyno for the cysts once, he pushed on my ovary and i almost came off the table and hit him. he left and the nurse apologized for his actions, she had cysts too, and she knew how painful they were.

    then there was the male gyno who had a poster of Garfield on his ceiling, something you didn’t notice til you were down on your back in the Spanish Inquisition Stirrups.  he was great.

    many others. it’s so much fun i’m surprised i can’t remember every minute of those visits!  lol.

    my friend and i used to do psuedo moon lodges. we didn’t wait until we were actually bleeding though, we just had them whenever we felt the need to dive deep into stuff and talk.  we did quite a few ceremonies together.

    another friend of mine had a crone ceremony when she turned 60. unfortunately i’d already moved far away and couldn’t attend. would have really liked to witness and been a part of one.

    i was allowed to observe a Sundance ceremony and participate in the closing, but only if i wasn’t bleeding.  one of the woman who had planned for the entire year to help prepare whatever it was there was to prepare had to bow out because she started her period. she stayed in the house and away from the Sundancers.

    i have clots, and was supposed to go get an ultrasound to see if a D&C was called for, but didn’t go. sound familiar?

  7. Do you think I need socks and underwear or should they be considered optional?

  8. I don’t own much in the way of adult clothes, I wear scrubs at work, so I can barely figure out which shirts will match. The rest of the time I wear jeans. Not a fashionista, I.

    • RiaD on April 10, 2008 at 06:01

    i’m thinking i’ve been thru ‘the change’ but i didn’t have any of the stuff everyone talks about…. just one day I didn’t have a period any more….(& was worried sick & did preggers tests almost daily for weeks!)

    but i still get migraines…and they always happened with my cycle~ the dr. called them hormonal migraines….almost every month from the time i had children~ sometimes twice a month…and he said when i went thru the change the migraines would cease

    this was all about 2 yrs ago~ i was almost 47…coinciding with the beginning of my long spral of depression….

    so i’m wondering if it was just my really really pisspoor eating(due to depression)?? (although i’ve never really been a ‘good eater’…always picking at food…and also we were on the edge of poor…the kids & husband were fed first while i dithered about…then ate what was left~ i don’t think mrD ever caught on to what i was doing) & that when i gain enough weight back my cycle will return?

    or if i’m just very very lucky & got thru this quickly & with no problems?

    any ideas anyone?

    O & btw…i only ate four times today…getting full & not so damn ravenous every coupla hours anymore… each hour i feel stronger than the one before, each day i’m doing more & more…

  9. Let’s talk about your eating habits

    .

    As I share them, I am in a position to state quite clearly that not eating much and migraines are best friends. Girl – you have to eat. Period. Pun Intended. But I am serious. You do way to much with that brain of yours – so feed it.

    • Robyn on April 10, 2008 at 15:13

    …for some of us.

  10. a friend sent this along the other day – I laughed and wanted to cheer the letter writer:

    This  is an actual letter from an Austin woman sent to American company Proctor and  Gamble regarding their feminine products. She really gets rolling after the  first paragraph. It’s PC Magazine’s 2007 editors’ choice for best  webmail-award-winning letter.

    Dear  Mr. Thatcher,

    I have been a loyal user of your ‘Always’ maxi pads for  over 20 years and I appreciate many of their features. Why, without the  LeakGuard Core or Dri-Weave absorbency, I’d probably never go horseback riding  or salsa dancing, and I’d certainly steer clear of running up and down the  beach in tight, white shorts. But my favorite feature has to be your  revolutionary Flexi-Wings. Kudos on being the only company smart enough to  realize how crucial it is that maxi pads be aerodynamic. I can’t tell you how  safe and secure I feel each month knowing there’s a little F-16 in my  pants.

    Have you ever had a menstrual period, Mr. Thatcher? Ever  suffered from the curse’? I’m guessing you haven’t. Well, my time of the month  is starting right now. As I type, I can already feel hormonal forces violently  surging through my body. Just a few minutes from now, my body will adjust and  I’ll be transformed into what my husband likes to call ‘an inbred hillbilly  with knife skills.’ Isn’t the human body amazing?

    As Brand Manager in  the Feminine-Hygiene Division, you’ve no doubt seen quite a bit of research on  what exactly happens during your customers monthly visits from ‘Aunt Flo’.  Therefore, you must know about the bloating, puffiness, and cramping we  endure, and about our intense mood swings, crying jags, and out-of-control  behavior. You surely realize it’s a tough time for most women. In fact, only  last week, my friend Jenifer fought the violent urge to shove her boyfriend’s  testicles into a George Foreman Grill just because he told her he thought  Grey’s Anatomy was written by drunken chimps.  Crazy!

    The point  is, sir, you of all people must realize that America is just crawling with  homicidal maniacs in Capri pants… Which brings me to the reason for my  letter. Last month, while in the throes of cramping so painful I wanted to  reach inside my body and yank out my uterus, I opened an Always maxi-pad, and  there, printed on the adhesive backing, were these words: ‘Have a Happy  Period.’

    Are you   #$%@* kidding  me? What I mean is, does any part of your tiny middle-manager brain really  think happiness – actual smiling, laughing happiness is possible during a  menstrual period? Did anything mentioned above sound the least bit  pleasurable? Well, did it, James?  FYI, unless you’re some kind of sick  S&M freak, there will never be anything ‘happy’ about a day in which you  have to jack yourself up on Motrin and Kahlua and lock yourself in your house  just so you don’t march down to the local Walgreen’s armed with a hunting  rifle and a sketchy plan to end your life in a blaze of glory.

    For the  love of God, pull your head out, man! If you just have to slap a moronic  message on a maxi pad, wouldn’t it make more sense to say something that’s  actually pertinent, like ‘Put down the Hammer’ or ‘Vehicular Manslaughter is  Wrong’, or are you just picking on us?

    Sir, please inform your  Accounting Department that, effective immediately, there will be an $8 drop in  monthly profits, for I have chosen to take my maxi-pad business elsewhere. And  though I will certainly miss your Flex-Wings, I will not for one minute miss  your brand of condescending bull shit. And that’s a promise I will keep.    Always.

    Best,

    Wendi Aarons

    Austin , TX  

    The first time I saw “Have A Happy Period” on the adhesive backing of a pad, I had the same reaction Wendi did. “Are you JOKING? What kind of IDIOT came up with this idea?”

    I showed this letter to my husband, and even he was astonished at the stupidity of the marketing execs. He knows better than to make light of a menstruating woman’s mood!

    • kj on April 11, 2008 at 03:00

    just checking in to see if today’s weather brought you:

    A  rain

    B  snow

    C  sleet

    D  hail

    E  all of the above

    • Robyn on April 11, 2008 at 15:09

    …that the fact that we transwomen have never menstruated has been held against…proof that we are alien to the company of women, outsiders to the class, that whatever a woman might be, basic to the definition is a person who menstruates.

    The fact that non transsexual women to exercise profusely as pre-teens (see especially young gymnasts) often don’t menstruate either doesn’t change that perception.

    From another perspective, the topic of periods highlights what transwomen can never experience.  We can simulate the hormonal mix that brings on the emotions.  Believe me (or not) when I say that going off hormones entirely prior to The Surgery teaches us a lot about that effect.  But we will never become pregnant, never bear a child.

    That is a topic that has makes some of us profoundly sad when it arises.

    • RiaD on April 11, 2008 at 15:42

    thank you ever so much for this essay…

    i’ve learned so much, shared so much …

    and have come to the conclusion that ALL women are NOT back-stabbers….i just didn’t know the right women!

    it feels really really good to be able to ask questions, share info….

    its what i’d imagined when i read those native american books & learned about moon lodge all those years ago…

    but i thought it was just fiction or relegated to a group/time i’d missed out on …til now!

    thank you♥~

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