(9 am. – promoted by ek hornbeck)
Why don’t we just forget about prosecution of Bush, Cheney, et al, let them ride off into the fading sunset off the hook having tortured and killed their way to a nice comfortable retirement as long as they just go away, and instead just change things so there is no more torture and war crimes being committed by the President in future?
That is fundamentally the “move forward” argument. Is it a legitimate argument, or is it an excusing of war crimes? It’s not a legal question, it’s a political one.
On Tuesday we saw the first of a multipart video discussion between Progressive Democrats of America board member David Swanson and Yellow Dog Democrat and Chair of The National Congress of Black Women Dr. Fay Williams, talking with Paul Jay of The Real News on the question of whether or not to prosecute Bush and Cheney, and heard Dr. Williams state that if we want prosecution to happen people are going to have to make Obama and Holder do it. People have to move the window of political possibility far enough to make them do it, in other words.
The question has moved far beyond our Petition For A Special Prosecutor since we began it though more signatures can only help it to become reality, is now in the media to a degree that impeachment never came close to, and is becoming a national if not worldwide debate, and Republicans are obviously terrified that it might happen, as we saw highlighted so clearly Wednesday with the Kit Bond Republican comedy of lies and fiasco.
In this second part of the discussion between Swanson, Williams and Paul Jay their conversation continues as they address and debate directly whether the “move forward” argument is legitimate, and about many of the ramifications and complexities involved in the question, with Swanson arguing the pros and Williams arguing some of the cons.
Real News: January 28, 2009 – 12 min 55 sec
Should Obama prosecute Bush and Cheney?
Pt.2
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Or should they go to prison?
Damn the political risk, it’s the right thing to do.
Ignoring War Crimes makes the whole country complicit.
subject of investigations and prosecutions!
I hope everyone takes a couple of minutes to read this article — it’s not very long, but it is jam-packed with “truths.”
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we cannot allow this precedent to stand. If we do, we are dooming ourselves to more of the same in the future. Case closed.
Oh, and thanks Edger as always.
Cut their nuts off and jam them down their lying throats…
(metaphorically of course… looks over shoulder for NSA people) LOL!