June 6, 2009 archive

How Did Torture Become More Terrible Than Killing?

Over four months into the new Democratic Presidential administration, the debate on torture has been front and center in the discussions of the previous Republican Presidential administration.  We’ve seen the former VP and his daughter of all people, repeatedly go on national TV to defend and actually extoll the virtues of torture.  Obama and his team have waffled and wheezed at every turn on what to do with the evidence and there is no sign as yet that his and AG Holders proclamations about “justice” will bear fruit to those of us outraged at torture in our names.  

So why all the outrage about torture?  The plain fact of the matter is that the U.S. has been involved in the torture game for decades.  The evidence is very clear.  From the Church hearings in the seventies, to the countless books on CIA operations, we can know that torture has been used, either by the U.S., or through intermediaries, under virtually every U.S. President.  

So ya, we torture all right.  We’re a world power in that too. But what about the killings?  Why doesn’t the killing of our soldiers and innocent civilians create as much systemic outrage as torture?  As much as we know about torture, we also know the Iraq “attack of another country” was illegal, based on lies.  Even Cheney admitted as much recently although he didn’t admit the lies.  Torture was simply one of those lies used to justify that “attack of another country”.  

On May 4th, 130-140 innocent civilians were killed in a bombing by the U.S. in the Farah Province of Afghanistan.  Women and children for criss sake.  The U.S. is admitting the mistake while trying to cover it up.  Jeremy Scahill is right in calling for accountability and justice for the victims:

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Although this is probably the worst incident of direct U.S. involvement in the killing of innocent civilians since the invasion in 2001, we all know of many lesser numbered killings, such the “wedding parties”.    In 1995, a federal building in Oklahoma City was bombed and 168 innocent civilians lost their lives.  Our country went into shock.   Nearly that many are killed by our U.S. military in another country and our country is numb.  

President Obama has said “We don’t torture, anymore”.  That’s another story.  I wish he would come out and say, “We don’t kill innocent civilians, anymore”.  Looks like its too late for that.  May 4th was clearly on his watch.

Consider a defendant charged with the rape, torture and murder of a woman.  Three different charges committed during the same crime event.  The charges of rape and torture carry twenty year sentences.  The charge of murder carries a life sentence.  There’s a reason for that.  

Everyone and his sister is crying out about torture in our names.  We need to also cry out about these insane hegemonic adventures the U.S. is continuing under Obama, and the killing of innocent civilians.  Until we can “change” the military industrial complex that is ruling this country, there will never be any real change, and the killing of innocent women and children will continue in your name.  

Crossposted at Daily Kos  

On Bill Moyers Journal tonight: Jeremy Scahill

On Bill Moyers Journal tonight, Jeremy Scahill, author of Blackwater, will be interviewed.

Link http://www.pbs.org/moyers/jour…

Scahill wants the United States to back up and examine its entire approach to foreign policy and, rather than analyze the number of troops to send to Afghanistan or replace the commander, ask whether the U.S. should have any troops there at all.

Who severed Hilzoy’s corpus callosum?

I make it point to visit Obsidian Wings daily, and hilzoy is a favorite of mine, because she’s pretty darn thoughtful, but something was seriously off kilter today in her post about Obama’s Cairo speech.

This bit from Obama’s speech also struck me as very strong:

“Palestinians must abandon violence. Resistance through violence and killing is wrong and does not succeed. For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation. But it was not violence that won full and equal rights. It was a peaceful and determined insistence upon the ideals at the center of America’s founding. This same story can be told by people from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to Indonesia. It’s a story with a simple truth: that violence is a dead end. It is a sign of neither courage nor power to shoot rockets at sleeping children, or to blow up old women on a bus. That is not how moral authority is claimed; that is how it is surrendered.”

The normal criticism of Palestinian violence is moral. That is as it should be, and Obama does not slight that: “That is not how moral authority is claimed; that is how it is surrendered.” But that criticism leaves open the possibility of framing the debate over Palestinian violence as one of principle versus effectiveness. As long as it is framed that way, one can understand (though not agree with) Palestinians who say: you’d think differently if you didn’t have a state; if it was your land that was constantly being seized, and your pregnant wife who had to wait for hours at a checkpoint to see a doctor. You’d put aside your principles and do what works.

That’s why it’s immensely important to say, clearly, that violence is not just wrong, but ineffective.

It’s not so much that I agree or disagree with the double-barreled blast of “morality AND effectiveness” lines of argument.  It’s kind of like the torture debate: it’s not only immoral; it plain doesn’t work reliably.  Blam!  Blam!  You dead!  Rhetorically speaking.  That’s fine.

The part of the argument that indicates a severe case of hemi-neglect (when a brain-damaged patient can easily lift one arm on command, but when asked to lift they other, they say, “What other?”), was when she suggested:

This bit from Obama’s speech also struck me as very strong.

Friday Night at 8: Hello, Cizzen!

This week, oy vey.

As in blogging oy vey.

So I’m really writing to myself tonight, just to get it into words and then forget about it.

You love Obama?  You  hate Obama?  You are indifferent to Obama?

Fine with me and any permutation in between.

What excites me about the political times we live in are the citizens.  Politicians are citizens, but you’d never know it with our present system.

So I’m interested in the citizens.

And not everyone is a citizen, not in my subjective view.

As buhdy and others have said, there are citizens and there are consumers.

Citizens are annoying and politicians wish we’d just shut up and go away.  They are willing to spend a great deal of money to distract us!  Please, please, just shut up and go away!  Can’t you see how difficult my job is?  I have to please everyone all the time and I can’t!  There are more important things than your concerns!  

Constituents.  Ha ha.  To the politician we are the audience.

Unless we yell.  And then they pay attention because that’s their job, that’s something they can understand.

mr. smith goes to washington

Obamas words In Cairo and a Buchenwald

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The Road Is Long, With Many Winding Turns

He Ain’t Heavy, He’s My Brother

Your victory garden and your local farmer can change the world

     The concept is very simple. You are what you eat.

     Economically speaking, this also means that you are what you consume.

    Since consumer spending makes up over 70% of our national eonomy, logic dictates that the smarter, healthier and more sustainable our purchasing is as individuals, the more sustainable and strong our national economy will become.

    The simple ripples in the water can have drastic effects, in the long run.

     So, here’s what we do.

    If Americans ate less meat, less fast food and manufactured food and instead ate more locally grown fruits and vegetables, as well as whatever food you can grow yourself, we could bring about the change we need without having to wait for anyone to take the lead.

    Simple changes to your daily diet, even if done in moderation, combined with enough people doing the same thing can literally change the world.

Action Alert in Pennsylvania: They’ll take my state parks from my cold, dead hands!

I apologize for the short and rushed essay, but I really want you to take action (something anyone can easily do) on this issue that is near and dear to me.

The Pennsylvania Senate’s proposed budget, SB 850, would cut the Department of Conservation and Natural Resource’s budget so much that they might have to close about 35 state parks.  With 117 state parks in PA, that’s a huge chunk, and chances are there would be a state park near you closing if you live in Pennsylvania.

Go below the fold to see how you can take action.

Distractions in the Sky

As usual I post these distractions on Friday, so you may get a break from the sometimes tedious week past, & a place where you might get an energy burst.

These images are of the sky, that endless expanse of wondrous things.

I`ll begin with these Red Hot Pokers to light the way.

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A Teaching Assistant Cut A First Nations Child’s Hair

There’s a reason Kevin Annett has a petition stating, “apparent refusal to investigate suspected crime sites related to the mass burials of children who died in Indian residential schools.”

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The child was touched without permission, during this time the assailant was holding what we can easily refer to as a “deadly weapon” given that you could hypothetically be killed by a pair of scissors. In fact, it is not a stretch to imagine this happening.

Friday Philosophy: Overcoming Fear

The WeaveMothers watched the train switch to the happentrack which they had just finished.  The transition was as smooth as ever it could be.  

The Engineer guided some steam through the whistle.

And the Storyteller began the tail of the Girl and the Five Fears.

Somewhere in a swamp

In mystic crocodiles’ domain

Live Loneliness, Humiliation,

Loss and Death and Pain

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