Whitehouse vs Cheney

Via emptywheel


Sheldon Whitehouse gave a barnburner of a speech last night, in which he described how egregious Dick Cheney’s lies about torture have been.

The speech goes further than President Obama’s and Russ Feingold’s and Carl Levin’s calls on Cheney’s lies in two ways. First, those other calls focused on whether the documents Cheney wants declassified actually say what he claims they say; Whitehouse focused on whether Cheney’s more basic claims about torture are true. And second, Whitehouse here focuses not on whether we needed waterboarding to get intelligence (Obama, for example, said, “the public reports and the public justifications for these techniques — which is that we got information from these individuals that were subjected to these techniques — doesn’t answer the core question, which is:  Could we have gotten that same information without resorting to these techniques?), but whether we actually got any useful intelligence from the methods at all.

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  2. White Horse vs Cheney, but not before he is held accountable for numerous crimes and nonspecific nastiness.

    • Edger on June 11, 2009 at 02:07

    in emptywheels description here…

    And second, Whitehouse here focuses not on whether we needed waterboarding to get intelligence…, but whether we actually got any useful intelligence from the methods at all.

    Now it’s time to nail his evil ass to the waterboard.

    It doesn’t make any difference whatsoever whether there was any information useful or not extracted from anyone by waterboarding them.

    It is a war crime under US law.

    And one that the United States has prosecuted, convicted, and executed people for committing.

    Cheney has confessed in public multiple times, shown no remorse whatsoever, and stated flatly that he would order it again.

    What the hell are Holder and Obama waiting for? Christmas??

  3. Honestly, I had no idea Whitehouse had such big balls.  Then again, I have come to expect little from any dem.

  4. so there should be video available in a little while.

    Im about to watch it now. ha! oh! she has the President of Palau too! !!

  5. prosecute Cheney and others on numerous charges. But we’re not going to do so.  

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