Not all that likely to pass

We can only hope because the way the Obama team has booted Insurance Company Bailouts Insurance Executive Welfare deserves defeat.

John Amato has been no radical.

Additional recent news from more disreputable sources (because I never deal in anything except the most scurrilous lies)-

The Difference Between Being Unable To Keep A Promise And Being A Liar

By: Jon Walker Thursday January 7, 2010 10:45 am

It really should not come as news to anyone who has followed the health care debate closely, but President Barack Obama now officially fighting for the inclusion of the excise tax on employer-provided health care benefits in the final bill. Obama expressly campaigned against taxing health care benefits, and even mocked the idea of taxing only "Cadillac plans" on the campaign trail. Clearly, his promise to not tax health care benefits was just a very big lie that he told the American people.

And, you know, anyone who claims they care about Democratic electoral prospects (more and better Democrats) is lying too.

New Arkansas Poll Results Beg Question: Why Did Senate Democrats Make Blanche Lincoln And Ben Nelson Walk The Plank On Health Care?

By: Jon Walker Thursday January 7, 2010 9:12 am

The policy arguments aside, I have a tough time understanding politically why the Democrats did not use reconciliation to pass a big bill labeled “health care reform” (with many of the smaller dropped pieces bundled into a small “insurance regulatory reform” bill, or slipped piece-by-piece into big defense, ag, or appropriations bills). By September, it became very clear that the fight had become very partisan, that the bill labeled “health care reform” would not be overwhelmingly popular, and that there would be no real Republican cover for conservative Democrats in the Senate. The vote for health care has become politically toxic for conservative Democratic senators from conservative states like Ben Nelson and Blanche Lincoln.

Hey, quit your blubberin’.  When I get through with this baby you won’t even recognize it.

Is The Health Care Bill Falling Apart?

By: David Dayen Thursday January 7, 2010 12:29 pm

Ultimately, the bill may not run aground because of financing, or abortion, or the employer mandate, or the public option, or any one thing. But with a combination of these problems, the Rubik’s Cube just might not be able to be put together. It’s interesting that so many people just assume a bill will pass at this stage. There are too many variables in play to assume that right now, based on what I’m seeing.

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  1. You have my solemn pledge to lie faster and better than Obama.

    I promise you.

  2. … resonates with me, as I have come to feel resigned that something will pass because something has to pass for purely political reasons and it no longer matters in any way what that bill will look like.

    I’m so tired of manufactured reality (and badly manufactured at that).

    This isn’t ‘sausage making.’  This is pure poison.

    And the outright lies are the most toxic ingredient, imo.

    • quince on January 8, 2010 at 17:35

    although I still hope (hah!) that the CPC will block it, although there’s not much hope… I think the administrtion has been able to bring incredible pressure to bear on progressives. I wonder if, privately, primaries are being threatened for progressives who don’t tow the line.

    However, I just THINK it will pass. Anyone that is sure of that is a fool or a liar. There is a combustible mix here, and who knows which (if any) part of the mix blows.  

    • TMC on January 8, 2010 at 17:43

    said he will still push his amendment to allow imported cheaper drugs. I hope he and Dodd vote against HRC. Neither has anything to lose

  3. be a challenge but the better part is as of late a piece of cake. My teenage granddaughter could give him a lesson on better lying she learned that jutting out your jaw and arrogance are dead giveaways and she integrates the punch line in the bullshit text so you don’t quite see the separation, and she never gives stern lectures on your irresponsibility at not accepting the lies before she hits you with them.      

    • Edger on January 9, 2010 at 01:38

    coming up with more and better lies, or pretty soon nobody is going to believe them. :-/

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