Oct 09 2009

Nobel Peace Prize Winner Accused of War Crimes by Spain

Now, how often do you get the opportunity to use that headline?

I’m out of things to say. But I’m sure many people will do just fine.

UPDATE:

Consider this an open thread.

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  1. I can’t believe that the Nobel Peace Committee could possibly, with a straight face, give out this award to the man who has been escalating Warfare, ever since he took office, and escalating human slaughter (including civilian bombings from unmaned, computerized War drones) throughout Afghanistan and Pakistan, and who has been actually increasing the presence of private Contractors (e.g., Blackwater, at the expense of Taxpayers) in War torn Iraq, and who refuses to close the foreign Military Bases there, or bring about any end to that shameful tyrannical War.

    In addition, Obama has been using (abusing) the high office of the Presidency to protect and defend Bush administration officials against any judicial action or accountability (even fighting against the ACLU, and mandated Court orders in the process). He has continued the shameful practise of “secret renditions” to black site prisons (where the human torture continues), and has been transfering prisoners to Bagram — the new “Abu Grahib”, while failing by choice on his so-called promise to “end Guantanimo”.  Obama has not only perpetuated the many War Crimes of the Bush administration, in all their various forms, he has blocked any effort to allow any cleansing or healing to take place, for this Country or for the World, that would be realized by a public government rebuke and prosecution of these War Crimes.

    So should they give out the award to Dick Cheney next as well?

    The Nobel Peace Prize Committee has lost all credibility here. Just what the hell do they now stand for, when they celebrate ongoing War Crimes, and a policy of endless, perpetual Warfare — which has also destablized the entire World economy (as well as our own).

    The irony, as you point out, is that Obama in his short Presidency, has already been outed as a certified War Criminal himself in the Spain inquiry (which unfortuantely will have no legal or political consequences, and will be wholly ignored by the major Media, and the U.S. State Department).

    Oh well, they gave out a Nobel Prize to Henry Kissinger too.  

    If I were Al Gore or Jimmy Carter, I would send mine back in protest, and say that I do not wish to be associated with anyone that has that much blood on their hands.

    • Miep on October 9, 2009 at 13:07
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    but so many things to say, and so many places to say them in.

    For starters, I’ve been going around and posting that nice Brussels link about Spain and the war crimes suit, here and there.

    Good for people to know about that.

    • Miep on October 9, 2009 at 13:14
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    http://www.brusselstribunal.or…

    to “People vs. Total War Incorporated.”

    Here’s the text:  

    MADRID: Today the Spanish Senate, acting to confirm a decision already taken under pressure from powerful governments accused of grave crimes, will limit Spain’s laws of universal jurisdiction. Yesterday, ahead of the change of law, a legal case was filed at the Audiencia Nacional against four United States presidents and four United Kingdom prime ministers for commissioning, condoning and/or perpetuating multiple war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide in Iraq.

    This case, naming George H W Bush, William J Clinton, George W Bush, Barack H Obama, Margaret Thatcher, John Major, Anthony Blair and Gordon Brown, is brought by Iraqis and others who stand in solidarity with the Iraqi people and in defence of their rights and international law.

    That was published yesterday and blogged about here by tahoebasha3.

    link: https://www.docudharma.com/diary/16…

     

    • Miep on October 9, 2009 at 13:15
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    on naranja, to an essay that said this was wrong…a few answers. I liked it.

    http://www.dailykos.com/commen…

  5. deep, deep down that this was a ridiculous token.

    sorta like giving him a gold medal…without him ever having participated in an actual olympic games event…

    or perhaps it was a typo…now give him the Nobel Fleece Prize, and we have a real winner!

    damn this world’s gone all topsy-turvy…

    • TMC on October 9, 2009 at 14:07
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    who else was on the nominee list that they chose Obama. Sounds like the other nominees weren’t very impressive either.

  7. Fortunately it’s a pretty big carrot.

    • Edger on October 9, 2009 at 14:46
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    by way of introduction. “So fucking cold.”

    [snip]

    Yet now, he says, it is clear the American experiment has been “a failure”. It was all for nothing. Soon the country will be ranked “somewhere between Brazil and Argentina, where it belongs.” The Empire will collapse militarily in Afghanistan; the nation will collapse internally when Obama is broken “by the madhouse” and the Chinese call in the country’s debts. A ruined United States will then be “the Yellow Man’s Burden”, and “they’ll have us running the coolie cars, or whatever it is they have in the way of transport”.

    A Scotch is fetched for him as he is wheeled into the corner of the bar. “I was like everyone else when Obama was elected – optimistic. Everything we had been saying about racial integration was vindicated,” he says, “but he’s incompetent. He will be defeated for re-election. It’s a pity because he’s the first intellectual president we’ve had in many years, but he can’t hack it. He’s not up to it. He’s overwhelmed. And who wouldn’t be? The United States is a madhouse. The country should be put away – and we’re being told to go away. Nothing makes any sense.” The President “wants to be liked by everybody, and he thought all he had to do was talk reason. But remember – the Republican Party is not a political party. It’s a mindset, like Hitler Youth. It’s full of hatred. You’re not going to get them aboard. Don’t even try. The only way to handle them is to terrify them. He’s too delicate for that.”

    When he compares Obama to his old friend Jack Kennedy, he shakes his head. “He’s twice the intellectual that Jack was, but Jack knew the great world. Remember he spent a long time in the navy, losing ships. This kid [Obama] has never heard a gun fired in anger. He’s absolutely bowled over by generals, who tell him lies and he believes them. He hasn’t done anything. If you were faced with great problems in chemistry – to find the perfect gas, to gas a population – you won’t know for a long time whether it works. You have to go by what people tell you. He’s like that. He’s not ready for prime time and he’s getting a lot of prime time on his plate at once.”

    Is there any hope? “Every sign I see is doom. But then people say” – he adopts a whiny, nasal voice – “‘Oh Mr Vidal, you’re so negative, can’t you say something nice about America? It’s a wonderful country, everybody wants to live here.’ Oh yes? When was the last time you saw a Norwegian with a green card who wanted to come here because of the health service? I’ll pay you if you can find one.”

    Gore Vidal’s United States of fury, two days ago…

    • Robyn on October 9, 2009 at 15:07
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    …not simply celebrate people’s efforts at it.

    a peace maker or rights activist engaged in a current conflict whose influence would benefit greatly from winning the Nobel Peace Prize.

    Notice the use of the future tense there?  I hilighted it just in case.  

    • Edger on October 9, 2009 at 15:35
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    the Peace Prize should be awarded “to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.”

    Not “or”.  “and”

  11. OSLO February 27, 2009 (AP)…

    But more is known about how some of the others were nominated.

    Macedonian humanitarian and artist Zivko Popovski-Cvetin was nominated by the Macedonian government, Austrian children’s charity SOS-Kinderdorf International was put forward by the Austrian government, American Greg Mortenson was nominated by six members of the U.S. Congress for his Asian school building charity, Vietnamese religious leader Thich Quang Do was put forward when a campaign recruited lawmakers to nominate him, and American musician Pete Seeger also was nominated after a campaign.

    Lundestad has said the committee typically cuts the contenders down to a short list of 30 to 35 names at its first meeting, which is whittled down to about 10 at the committee’s next meeting, in April. The decision is announced in mid-October.

    Last year’s prize went to peace mediator Martti Ahtisaari, a former Finnish president.

    heres a few more…

    Among names mentioned in recent years are former German chancellor Helmut Kohl, Chinese dissident Wei Jingsheng, Israeli nuclear whistle-blower Mordechai Vanunu, as well as the Austrian-based relief organization SOS Children’s Villages and the European Union.

  12. awarded next years NBA championship”.  

    It’s a trend now.  Preemptive awarding.  

    • Joy B. on October 9, 2009 at 17:29
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    …and saw this news as I began sipping my first cuppa. WTF?! I asked my still-sleepy brain, is this some kind of a joke? Now, it’s not like I’m unwilling to get a happy-boost whenever ‘we’ win something. Like the Olympics (or a medal therein), or another sports championship, or maybe a war (though I don’t recall ever actually ‘winning’ one since I’ve been alive).

    …but to give the Nobel Peace Prize to someone who’s engaging wars of invasion and occupation in two nations, drone bombing a third, amassing troops in a fourth (Columbia) and threatening a fifth (Iran) is just… surreal. To say the least. And I voted for the guy!

    Wowsa.

  14. would have been a better name for this year’s award.

    And even then I don’t think Obama deserves it.

  15. Beyond 911 truth

    Beyond the parasitic concept of globalism

    Beyond the parasitic concepts of all the “isms”.

    Let mankind now achieve his true destiny in the stars.

  16. Well there’s Kissinger for precedent, isn’t there?

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